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the us just spent a lot of money picking a new assault rifle specifically because they wanted one that could actually penetrate kevlar now that russia and china are issuing it to their troops

well, i guess maybe china is issuing it to their troops

alright you get one more, then i kind of need to stop wasting my time with you unless you get more entertaining quickly

it’s the Russian equivalent, you say, except the power dynamic is entirely different and CSTO isn’t expanding. Interesting.

because nobody wants to join the alliance run by the country most likely to invade you? “russia is too disliked for their alliance to be popular” or “russia is too incompetent to run an effective alliance” is an incredible argument

why don’t we ask azerbaijan and armenia how their membership is going if you’re confused as to why csto is unpopular?

Export of Industrial and Financial Capital to exploited Countries to super-exploit for super-profits, like an international Capitalistic relation.

ohhhhhhh so you mean like sending in pmcs to countries in africa? or setting up debt traps for countries in africa?

I have explained how and why, your refusal to read is no longer my problem.

Quite the contrary, your selective reading and blinders mean you can’t be reached with words.

literally nothing you’ve said has justified nato behaving in an imperialist way, other than your definition of imperialism, which includes russia and china, so good job

to paraphrase you, “membership expansion isn’t imperialism”, which is the only thing you’ve been arguing over, which is wild when the thing you’re meant to be justifying is that “nato is a protection racket”.

i don’t think you know what a protection racket is

So then why bring it up?

because it’s the closest equivalent to nato? the us also wouldn’t be allowed to join brics, if that helps de-confuse you.

Invasion and Imperialism are not the same thing.

please provide a definition for imperialism that doesn’t include what russia’s doing in ukraine now

This kinda verges on anti-Russian racism, there’s no analysis of why you believe this.

says the one who’s just been continuously stating without expounding that nato is a collection of spooky imperialist powers

You indeed do not know.

The GDR indeed purged Nazis, as they were attacked by western Germany, which largely retained its Nazis.

or don’t respond to what i posted that’s cool too i guess

i think it’s pretty clear you don’t have much of an argument here, given that this started as “nato is a protection racket” and across 6 replies you’ve provided absolutely nothing to support that statement past whinging

peace

Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?

i don’t think nato cares about csto

It’s NATO’s fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries

russia is literally doing an imperialism right now, but nato is the one with grotesque reaches, okay

Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.

lmao because nato predates russia

and russia started getting into iffy wars basically at its inception

When and why did Russia start “misbehavin?”

probably because they’re an imperialist power? i don’t know

East-Germany purged Nazis

okay

NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied.

in the same way the us wouldn’t be allowed to join csto

The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.

i don’t see how it’s nato’s fault that people are so sick of russia’s shit that they’re signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves

it was provoked by NATO expansion

nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs

nato isn’t the warsaw pact. they aren’t sending in tanks to force people to be a part of their alliance.

this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities

NATO didn’t start after 2022

russia didn’t start misbehavin’ after 2022 either

many of its leaders were Nazi officers

east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks

the reason you can’t draw a line from that to today is because the ussr folded like a cheap suit 30 years ago

it has always been a way to exert Western supremacy

you’re just kind of saying things now

in this case the external pressure is a rogue state doing a cheeky land grab on its neighbor

i’m not sure why that’s nato’s fault, although i’m very excited that you’re about to tell me

no it isn’t, and also, it’s rent-seeking by having countries ask to join? yes this makes sense

even if that was an accurate description of nato, that’s not an accurate description of a protection racket

Essentially, NATO serves as a protection racket

what

Harris’s hands are tied due to a contract

the us stipulates what you can do with the weapons they sell you in the contract they give you, so the us could absolutely conjure up a legal reason to terminate it

people who bemoan the genocide

oh why won’t those losers stop moaning about “genocide”

encouraging fascism by ignoring the contract

this is a nonsensical statement

respecting the sanctity of a business deal over the sanctity of human life is one of the core tenets of fascism

why are you talking about contracts? how are contracts relevant to people in this thread being pro-fascism?

if i had to guess, to convey the idea that “i do not like it when presidential candidates support the funding of genocide”

but then again asking me to divine the will of a poster i’ve never met or spoken to is quite a strange thing to do

You’re drawing some pretty premature conclusions from incomplete information.

i mean yeah i did but i don’t see how that relates to harris being more pro-genocide than trump

i mean there aren’t any pro-fascism comments here at time of me posting this so maybe this thread isn’t the resource you think it is

nobody in this thread is pretending harris is more pro-genocide than trump

i have literally never seen a comment on the fediverse that implied that

all these fascists who are against…

*checks notes*

…funding genocide?

There has been no genocide. […] About 700,000 Arabs either fled or were expelled during the 1947 civil war and 1948 independence war of Israel following the United Nations-backed decision to recognise a State of Israel.

kind of pointless arguing with somebody reality-challenged enough that they can describe a genocide and then go “see no genocide”

it’s pretty obvious to anybody paying attention what’s going on in gaza, you just evidently just don’t want to pay attention

As of May 2024, only 12 of Gaza’s 36 hospitals are functional; 84% of health centers in the region have been destroyed or suffered damage. […] Israel has also destroyed numerous culturally significant buildings, including 13 libraries housing thousands of books,[37][38] all of Gaza’s 12 universities and 80% of its schools,[39][40] dozens of mosques, three churches, and two museums.[41][42][43]

so take your pick: is israel’s bombing so wildly indiscriminate that they’re just razing 80% of gaza, or are they deliberately targeting the infrastructure people need to live in a place?

Also, it wouldn’t actually silence his critics on this, precisely because it won’t change anything. The war will continue, so people would just start demanding that [Starmer] demand issuing arrest warrants for Israeli government ministers who come to the UK, or trade embargoes, or whatever.

i guess defending starmer’s “earlier, weak position on gaza” is more or less equivalent to criticism of it