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Well, it’s a list of "well maintained/moderated servers

Any server that federates with threads, a product of Meta a company known for their low quality moderation and lack of ethics, is clearly not a well maintained/moderated one.

It’s not a new rule. The admin is just applying the sites rules as they are, instead of making exception for threads as many of the techbro admins that are getting their servers excluded have been doing.

Not only is PixelFed not a competitor in terms of users, but the dev is desperate to cooperate and welcome Meta to the Fediverse. So it doesn’t represent any kind of threat for the company’s goals, at least at the moment.

See how quick he was in defending meta after they came with the bug excuse and how quickly he’s adding threads to the fediverse datebase to the point that the clone of Zuckerberg’s account that cannot even fully interact yet is called “the most popular fediverse account”

I think part of the issue with Ello was that they sell themselves as non-corporative social media while maintaining two of the most important characteristics of corporative social media:

• Centralisation and lack of federation
• Being closed-source

The story would have gone completely different if they

• Had made it open-source allowing users to contribute to the project, both as devs and through donations.

• Added decentralisation and federation, allowing others to make their own Ello servers. This could have taken a lot of weight (financial and otherwise) from the developers/founders. Users cost money. Dividing the user base within different servers, pay by and moderated by different people means dividing the costs.

You say this as if the US weren’t behind most atrocities in the world. Of course they won’t do anything.

I never used brave. I wasn’t interested in it since I learned it was chromium and all the crypto stuff.

You can’t follow tags (something that should be added), but you can add them to Antennas

Why is mastodon the worse one?

Lack of essential features and the toxicity within it servers.

It was meant to be federated, privacy friendly, self-hosted, less toxic twitter alternative for small communities

1- I didn’t say it had to be a twitter clone. What I said is that some people coming from Twitter that weren’t convinced by Mastodon, may be could have find other microblogging more adequate for their needs and usage. Each microblogging platform has its personality and usability, and Mastodon wasn’t for them.

The problem is when people are told that there’s nothing beyond Mastodon (regarding microblogging) on the fediverse, so they end up running away from the fediverse, after not finding a home on Mastodon.

2- It failed at being less toxic.

Witch hunts over petty arguments, negative reaction to newcomers not knowing how things work, racism that gets minimalised as “not as bad” by big part of the user base.

The fact that it doesn’t have quote posting because it “allows for toxic behaviour”, when other platforms have it and say toxicity is almost non-existant in using that feature, it’s in itself a red flag.

Antennas allow you to create secondary timeline of accounts, terms and tags without them having to appear in the primary timelines.

That way you can follow content from people without follow people.

Here the official explanation from Misskey:

Antenna is a feature that allows you to freely set conditions for a custom timeline and automatically collect matching notes. Antenna conditions can include conditions to include/exclude certain keywords and tags in different combinations as well as other options. When a note matching an antenna’s conditions is posted, the note will automatically be added to that antenna’s timeline.

I’m quite happy with Milk Tea (Android) for Firefish and Misskey.

No, not really. Firefish is a microblogging platform. Kbin is a link aggregation and topic discussion platform, with a wonky attempt at microblogging.

I wouldn’t call it an alternative to Mastodon or Twitter either, because Firefish has features that neither of them have. The only Microblogging platform it could be seen as an alternative to, now that it has gone beyond being just a fork, is Misskey.

People tend to compare Firefish and Misskey more to Tumblr, but they still have things that either were inspired by other microblogging platforms (twitter, included), or that are unique to them. So they aren’t fully “Tumblr alternatives” either.

Why stick to the worse one, though?

The point of federation is that you can create community with people all over it, no matter what software the server they joined is running.

Mastodon being too big to the point that 90% of it users things it’s the whole fediverse is not positive nor contributes to create an stable community. Many people coming from twitter run from the fediverse, because they’re told there’s nothing other than mastodon, which they find hard to use, lacking and extremely toxic.

Misskey, Firefish, Akkoma, GoToSocial, Microblogpub, etc give people other options that may fit their need for/usage of a microblogging platform better than mastodon does, as each (including Mastodon and each of its forks) has it’s own “profile”

1- Never join the official instances. They always are too big that are almost impossible to moderate.

2- In which timeline did you see those comments? Because if it was global, it’s possible these are unknown servers the admins aren’t aware of. (The trending section is global)

Here a better explanation from the Misskey (from where Firefish took this feature) official page

I haven’t seen any Misskey or Firefish admin commenting negatively about the existence of the drive feature itself

Cool things on Firefish/clackey, that Mastodon and most of it forks don’t have:

• Quote notes (Misskey and Akkoma, a fork of Pleroma, also have them)

• Antennas. They allow you to add words, tags and accounts to lists and create parallel timelines that you can see whenever you want, without having to follow this accounts

• You can create personalized timelines for certain accounts to appear in.

• It has a drive section where you can upload files.

• Channels. This are public local group that the members of a server can create, join and interact within.

• Private chat groups. Local only.

• Emoji reactions

• Clips. These are collections of notes (“note” is the name post receive in Misskey and Firefish)

You can create multiple clips and manage them by giving a name and description to each. You can also choose to make your clips public to make them available to other users.

• You can create custom web pages. For now they don’t federate.

• Customisable (by admin) character limit.

I don’t know how I feel about the new name, but I’m curious to see what new features come with the rebranding.

Calckey/Firefish is by far my favourite microblogging platform. It has a greater number of features than mastodon, and I personally find it more inviting.

What I wanna know is, with it being its own thing now (rather than a fork of misskey), while it still be supported by Misskey apps, like MilkTea?

I think Calckey/firefish, because of it history and characteristics, tends to have more themed instances. Many of the so called “general” instances, are multi-topic or multi-fandom themed instances rather than actual general purpose ones.

I think someone not used to these things would see ‘Coming Soon’ and just leave it as not launched yet.

It’s probably not launched yet. The main instance hasn’t open (or rather moved from calckey) and other intances are moving from either old Calckey or foundkey.

Firefish has already set up a new site and infrastructure under their new name. The flagship instance of Calckey.social is in the process of moving over to Firefish.social. The migration effort is intended to retain users, posts, credentials, and data. The move is expected to officially happen over the course of the next few days.

I would say to wait at least a week to check the official instance.

You acted as if there weren’t ways of reaching, only because it wasn’t the one you wanted to have.

I suggest you to stop relying on google, because in general it doesn’t give good result for Lemmy (less for Beehaw in specific), and start to follow/join at least one of the alternative groups/accounts

I’m gonna say this only once, but that’s an incredibly rude thing to say. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in my previous reply but it’s obvious now that you’re just treating me like an idiot.

Yeah, because you haven’t been rude from the beginning (you were)

People (including me) explained to you how you could have reached the admins and stay in touch so this kind of thing wouldn’t take you by surprise. When you had been explained several times this things and you keep insisting you don’t have any option because “you couldn’t google it”, one has to begin to think that you’re doing this in bad faith.

Considering the responses to the thread, I don’t think that’s true.

Given that you aren’t in any of the groups, nor following their mastodon account. I don’t think what you think based on the responses on a sole thread has any merit

A lot of people, myself included, are still getting used to Lemmy. The status quo has been if stuff was happening to Reddit there was an easily accessible server status page you could search up. I tried to do the same this time around and Google came up with diddly-squat. I don’t think googling Beehaw to figure out what’s going on is that illogical of a response.

Every time you open Beehaw (or any Lemmy instance for the matter) on the right side you’ll find the description of the server below the “trending communities” box. There the admins put important links, including the three alternative ways to reach them (Mastodon, Matrix and Discord). You didn’t have to google anything, it was just taking a look the main page of the server, see the section titled “Beehaw” and read it (Something that could have been done any time the server was up)

You could have checked it before and follow their Mastodon-style account and join their matrix and/or discord groups, like most of us did.

Because everything they do server-wise is announced in those places, preemptive shutdowns included.

Alternative ways to reach the admin team and to be kept aware of anything happening with the server exist. If you didn’t take the time (seconds) to join at least one of them, that’s not the server’s owners fault.