the illusion of privacy

i am from the post usenet and pre facebook internet generation (i hope that is vague enough) so using my real name on the internet or signing up for accounts with my real name email acount is strictly verboten by indoctrination, so my opinion may be out of date or invalid somehow, but i can not see how your lemmy account’s up or down voting history violates privacy in any meaningful way

that’s kind of the point, other instances are already aggregating and rating your votes given and received, why shouldn’t lemmy show this to you?

it seems from a very brief search that likes and dislikes (see link below, i assume they translate to up and down votes) are the extent of what is available so a more nuanced slashdot or steam review type rating is unlikely to be viable.

in any case the ability to upvote and downvote feels like a core differentiating feature to this kind of forum and inbetween measures are unsatisfactory. upvote and downvote anything you like, and everyone can see you doing so, would be an improvement imo on the current implementation.

at least it may be possible in a future version to allow or disallow voting behaviours on a community rather than instance basis?

https://www.w3.org/wiki/ActivityPub/Primer/Like_activity

it’s a bit slippery slopey but yes i suppose so. if your downvoting sprees amount to being abusive as the admins or mods define it then on their terms your account should be banned, ip banned, whatever. i don’t think there’s any voting based behaviour that gets you in irl trouble, obviously posts inciting violence, sending credible threats or other behaviour that gets you noticed by your regional authorities is another kettle of fish, but none of that seems relevant to up/downvotes being visible

the author almost certainly has more experience in managing online communities than me (i have none) but it seems counterintuitive to see a dumb take, downvote and bother to leave an argumentative reply rather than just downvote and scroll past. downvotes in this case would defuse potential arguments rather than start them, but i’ll defer to the author and assume that’s not what happens

dual-voting (“I downvoted because I don’t like it but I upvoted it because you are absolutely right about it")

This is the most interesting take i have seen on the matter. it’s not a score out of five, why shouldn’t you up and down vote the same post?

you make an objectionable but very interesting point?

you are essentially right but you are belligerent and can’t spell?

upvote and downvote.

For legal reasons this is a joke

no other reasons apply

You mentioned accountability

not really. but yes i believe your online profile, as vague as that term is, can and should remain distinct from your irl personal info. what your account has up or down voted on activitypub is a far cry from being personal info

(edited for clarity)

piefed is already extremely redditty maintaining behind-the-scenes ‘karma’ and ‘attitude’ for users whether they signed up for it or not. why shouldn’t this info be public instead of in the hands of admins only?

https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

the vote history of your lemmy account is visible

vs

your real name and address are exposed

how the fuck are these things similar

agree with this and would add that the privatisation of social housing needs to be ended by abolishing the right to buy before real investment into it can begin

maybe so from a first world perspective, not that they’ve been idle in developing nations. but plenty of governments don’t need the pope’s say so to criminalise non-heterosexuality

https://www.humandignitytrust.org/lgbt-the-law/map-of-criminalisation/

it might have done its job anyway, incoming labour gov will be shit up about reform let alone abolition of right to buy even if any of them ever might have considered it in the first place

Get raised catholic, turn out gay. What’s to make sense of? Lots of religious followers cherry pick the bits of text they like and disregard the rest, why should gays be any more rational?

One effect of the harebrained Rwanda policy was to drastically reduce the price of getting on the boats, so this announcement may reduce crossings as fewer will be able to afford it

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/06/channel-smugglers-drop-prices-and-cram-more-people-on-to-boats

it’s a reasonable reply, fair play to you

For one, you can say fuck on the internet, and for two, who are you to give out such ridiculous orders?