They wanted to stay in Afghanistan even after 20 years but 2 years of Ukraine is too much.

What is the point of using something that’s federated if we all have to do things the same way? Sounds like you just want a centralized site where you get to make the rules.

The OP wasn’t speaking for their server though they were speaking for the fediverse. Everyone should be able to run their server how they see fit but don’t speak for other people.

“People joining the Fediverse are those looking for freedom. If people are not ready or are not looking for freedom, that’s fine. They have the right to stay on proprietary platforms. We should not force them into the Fediverse. We should not try to include as many people as we can at all cost. We should be honest and ensure people join the Fediverse because they share some of the values behind it.”

Who gets to appoint the gatekeepers?

There goal is to not look like a monopoly to the government and have to deal with anti-trust issues. This lets them hide behind them being “open” and not forcing people to use Meta apps to access the network.

You don’t need to get consensus though. The Fediverse isn’t a monolith and you can change servers if you feel the one you’re on isn’t working for you anymore.

It’s sadly not any worse than Instagram already is.

Yeah but that’s all public information that I’m choosing to put out there. Meta doesn’t need to do a complete integration and share posts back to the fedeverse just to grab public information. They can just scrape the sites the way they are now for most of it.

Email is not just for individuals. There are plenty of newsletters and other mass emails you can sign up for.

The fedeverse also benefits from their creators content for free too. There’s no better way to get people off of Meta than to tell people to come to Lemmy/Mastodon and you can still follow the people you want. Making people choose FOSS or the content creators they want to follow will just force them to stay on Meta.

Email doesn’t work? I think you are being a little hyperbolic.

Sounds like some changes should be made to the Lemmy software then if anyone can just connect and start pulling out private data about me. Mastodon doesn’t have that problem. I connect to my server and my server talks to Meta. Meta doesn’t get to see any of my private info. Just the stuff I make public.

Yeah I came to Lemmy and Mastodon so I’m not living in a walled garden anymore…

What a huge piece of FUD this is. Threads is already way larger then the Fediverse is. They don’t need to come here and try and take users. You are afraid that Meta will hoard the content and users from the Fediverse but they are already doing that. Threads doesn’t connect now so it’s all there’s. Why would they connect to just disconnect later? Why is the answer to being afraid of getting disconnected in the future to never connect? This makes no sense. It’s complete fear mongering.

You’re right. It’s all FUD at this point. There’s nothing stopping servers from federating for now and then disconnecting later if an actual issue comes up.

This is an absolutely awful take. Can you imagine if you had this approach with email? You wouldn’t let your email server connect to a Gmail server or any other email server that connected to a Gmail server. That’s insane and email becomes worthless.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of trash.