And you don’t see that on lemmy? It’s everywhere. Well maybe less so actual arguments and more just 100% anti Israel.

And most other countries also have much stricter gun control laws too.

We could work on those things and the gun problem too.

So again, you are being very transparent by completely disregarding the guns as if they somehow aren’t part of the gun violence problem.

Either way. I think this is where I drop out of this. We are going in circles and while I agree we should work on the things you mention, we clearly just disagree about the actual guns themselves. And of course neither of us are actually in a direct position to make changes to any of those things, I assume. So you have a good one.

I personally didn’t propose any of those policies. I genuinely don’t know what would work best. I just think you are being really transparent in treating the guns themselves as having nothing to do with the issue of gun violence.

I think everything you were saying would be great to accomplish. It’s just really disingenuous to propose them knowing there is a slim chance any of them will happen while completely ignoring the actual guns, just because you want to keep your guns.

We do have a societal problem. We also very much have a gun problem.

And proposing all these other things you know won’t get accomplished is a way to shift all the responsibility away from the gun issue itself.

And you aren’t being emotional about even the thought of some more gun control or anything to even tackle that issue head on? Come on.

I didn’t specify a plan one way or another. I just think it’s crazy that the talking points you presented seem pretty clearly designed to just kick this issue down the road, cause at least that way you still get to have your guns.

And believe me, solving all those things you mentioned would be great. But why not also try and do something about the major gun issues at the same time too?

So basically… Fix every other nearly impossible to fix problem first before even deciding to do anything about the actual guns, if anything at all?

And to be clear, by impossible to fix, I mean politically, not that these problems are actually unsolvable.

I get that too, but I dont think social media is really a great place to get a representative idea of how people are truly feeling about things.

A lot of social media tends to evolve into echo chambers, so not great for wider views. As mentioned too, it’s not great for nuance. While I think most people are probably capable of getting the nuance of a situation, when “discussing” things online, having to type your thoughts out into a few small paragraphs, that all just seems to get completely lost, and only the bullet points, which are often the most extreme parts, remain.

Lemmy is also seemingly filled with tankies and people that seem like they want to be edgy just to be edgy or specifically to push certain viewpoints/ideologies. And considering that it’s not a widely adopted platform, I think it’s especially not representative of people as a whole.

And of course with the anonymity of the internet, people know they can say stuff just to get other people frustrated or angry with no consequences to their own personal lives.

I find it’s usually best to just avoid any social media around major and divisive news events like this. Specifically where people are allowed to comment and express their opinions. Everyone just gets more extreme in their views, are convinced they are absolutely right, and there is never any room for nuance.

Nah, there’s one key difference between lemmy users and Reddit users. They behave mostly the same, but there is also a sense of superiority where they just think they know better because of the platform they choose to use.