My guy, I’m not arguing that terrible genocide isn’t happening. It’s a hypothetical about how when people aren’t dead, hypothetically ending the conflict can save their lives. This is why the rate matters.

You are latched on to minutia, when I’m suggesting a slower, hopefully stopped genocide is better than a sped up, expanded genocide.

If the genocide kills 1 person per year, that’s better than one that kills 1,000,000 per year.

Because you are being very pedantic, let me be clear: I don’t think what’s happening now is close to 1. I don’t claim 1 or 1,000,000 is the accurate number. It’s an illustration.

Trumps team has made clear they want wider war. So WHATEVER is going on now is not enough for the trump team. Pick your number, pick your actors pick your locations. I’m not contesting any of it. I’m saying whatever you say is happening now, they want more.

Huh? That’s insane. We hope that an existing genocide is slower, obviously ideally slow = 0. More time for more lives for peace talks to bring it to an end.

I disagree that the rate, and overall scope are the same with Biden/Harris or trump. I’m contending, based on his admins own words, that things will accelerate faster, and end up worse with trump. I’m not suggesting things would be chill and peaceful with Harris.

I’ve never claimed that.

A wider genocide. A nuclear war. American soldiers actively involved, essentially another iraq war. A US administration not seeking the relative calm of the past but a 2025 with NO Palestine, no Iran, no Yemen.

Bidens admin has tried to maintain the status quo. They wish things could go back to say, 2019 status or so. It’s still shitty, it’s still unjust for Palestine’s innocent, but there isn’t a full world war happening.

Trump’s team wants to get actively involved. They want to go far beyond the status quo. They don’t think what is happening today is enough. They want open war with Iran and it’s satellites. They want Palestine depopulated and to rebuild vacation condos in its place.

I get it you think it’s really bad now. I agree.

But we are about to get someone actively hoping to make it worse. More, more, more.

Yeah it’s about to go region wide. Many 10s of millions more will be in active combat zones. What we have now is just a primer.

Edit As a highwater, Israel flirts with nuking Iran if they become nuclear capable.

Realistically: Less than 11.

Armchair: 3 or 4.

Trump’s people seem eager to turn this into an open regional conflict with direct US action and boots on the ground. Once that happens we are cruising towards a world war, and no one will even be thinking of Gaza any more.

Edit to be clear: I’m not minimizing what’s happening in gaza. It’s terrible. But it can get a whole lot worse.

How so? Trump is about to kick things up to 11

What will they say when kushner is building condos where Gaza was? Will that still be teaching Harris a lesson?

How has anyone opposed the genocide given the electoral outcome?

And pip install -r requirements.txt

You think they are venmoing Ukraine?

The aid is for weapons delivery via 2 paths:

1. Write off appropriation and backfill of mothballed stock we already needed to rotate out or destroy, due to shelf life

2. Net new construction of weapons for immediate delivery to Ukraine. That construction happens in the US and us partner nations, and provides the US valuable use Intel as a cherry on top.

It’s valuable spending either way.

Hell yea smart lil Bros

It’s absolutely part of the deal.

I’m allowed to further discuss the on topic subject, especially as clarification of my point.

Edit you minimized the discussion to quantitative “more olives”, and I clarified my position as being more than that, and that the definition of premium is a known thing.

If you are all set, stop replying. I promise you I wouldn’t double reply to repull you.

Edit also you entered this conversation debating what “premium” is so don’t act like that’s invalid discussion.

Well it’s clearly described what you get. It’s not just “more”.

Material, physical changes to the customer experience.

You’re literally getting a different seat as a product, or a different relationship with the purchase, as a service.

I’m not simping for the airline here, but it’s literally different (and stupidly more expensive)

That’s silly and not seen anywhere in the commercial flight market

Position in the place for example there’s only so much plane and there’s food space and bad. “Somewhat less shit” is a short rope as there’s only so many rows, and since are better than others.

Being able to refund is clearly premium.

Etc etc

No? More space, better position in the plane, better boarding group, generally better refund policy, better miles accrual

Edit what’s the downvotes? Each thing is a more premium version of the basic economy.