I did get results for chemical weapons, Specifically chloropicrin, as it’s in one of the links and their other heinous war crimes. I just didn’t see any for white phospherous in particular. 🤷

Well, yes. But afaik Starmers is the only one that you can get arrested and have it reclassified as a terrorist action and imprisoned for lengthy sentences. Or get arrested as a terrorist. But unlikely to happen due the exact same offence if protesting a different war.

I think that there has been some sort of miscommunication or a mismatch in context here:

Keir Starmer signals he would give Andy Burnham a cabinet job

I mean, Burnham will be taking a job on the Government cabinet, and it is likely that Starmer will be clearing out somebody’s office in preparation for that. I’m just not sure that they are both talking about the same job. /s

There are so many sources citing different figures, I just picked the one that is mostly used by media. Also, it is believed that the figures in Gaza are much higher than the figures that the data shows. But without proof, I didn’t/couldn’t link it.

Yeah, I’ll have a look through my history and see how I phrased it, but it was something like “accusations of Russia using white phospherous or illegal weapons and war crimes” in a few different ways.

ai was useless (no surprises) but thought I would see if it spat out anything different anyway. They just asked me for reference links to feed them with. Which I obviously didn’t have.

I didn’t say no WP, I said I couldn’t find any accusations of it… and I couldn’t. But I have now added that link anyway.

Edited. Thanks. Wasn’t whitewashing Russia at all. I used Qwant, DDG, Google, and even asked a couple of AI bots, but couldn’t find anything about Russia using it. But I never said that they didn’t, because I am well aware that they commit war crimes too.

I was not comparing the wars for the wars. I was going to explain at the end, I ran out of time, but I naively thought it would be understood. I can only say what was in my head when I posted it. Or you did understand it, and approve of what’s happening.

I am not (I thought obviously) condoning any war.

I’m not saying that one war is “better” or “worse” than any other war.

My main point (really, my only point) is that Starmers government compared the two and decided that one is bad and the other is good.

Despite all the atrocities that Israel do (which I was trying to accentuate in the post) - People are getting locked up as terrorists for agreeing with Palestine action.

it’s fucking ridiculous

in the UK we can be arrested for protesting against a genocide.

• 72,996 Palestinians killed by Israel (7 Oct 2023–14 Jun 2026, (UNRWA)
• 46,590 Ukrainian civilians killed by Russia (24 Feb 2022–31 May 2026 (OHCHR)

According to ACLED, from 7 Oct 2023 - December 5, 2025, Israel attacked these countries (There have been many more attacks since then): (LINK)

• Gaza and the occupied West Bank 8,332 times
• Lebanon 1,653 times
• Iran 379 times
• Syria 207 times
• Yemen 48 times
• Qatar once
• Tunisian waters twice, Maltese and Greek waters once each

Countries attacked by Russia since 24 Feb 2022 - Ukraine

Sanctions on Russia: 20 Sanction Packages

Sanctions on Israel by EU and HERE (harder to find any) 3 Sanction Packages

Israel war crimes in the war on Gaza. They’ve cut electricity, fuel, food and water to Gaza’s population and severely curtailed life-saving humanitarian aid, all of which are acts of collective punishment. The ICC has issued arrest warrants naming Israeli leaders and alleging war crimes and crimes against humanity (including starvation as a method of warfare). They have also been accused multiple times of attempting genocide. Israel is accused of the gravest war crimes - how governments respond could haunt them for years to come

• Quick Facts: Israel’s Illegal Use of White Phosphorus
• Israel: White Phosphorus Used in Gaza, Lebanon
• Lebanon: Evidence of Israel’s unlawful use of white phosphorus in southern Lebanon as cross-border hostilities escalate
• Israel used weapons in Gaza that made thousands of Palestinians evaporate

I can’t find any accusations of Russia using white phospherous - EDIT (thanks @[email protected])

• Ukraine war: Russia accused of using phosphorus bombs in Bakhmut
• Russias aggression in Ukraine
• 10 facts you should know about russian military aggression against Ukraine
• Russia accused of escalating chemical weapons attacks against Ukraine

The two wars are different in that The war in Ukraine is a state-to-state conflict, while the one in Gaza shows an asymmetric war in the besieged enclave

FACTBOX - Ukraine and Gaza wars compared

The Israeli wars are just dirtier than anything most have seen or heard of. In the UK you are more likely to be awarded something for protesting against the Russian invasion of Ukraine than anything else. But protesting against the more violent, more aggressive and more illegal wars commited by Israel will likely get you arrested and possibly treated as a terrorist.

Let that sink in.

In the UK if you protest against a genocide in another country, the government have ordered the Police to arrest you.

Petition: End the prosecution of peaceful protestors in the UK)

It’s true, there were videos of it a few months ago. They’ve been using it for a long time