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  • It is no coincidence that those people all only managed to shift the narrative slightly. So now it’s the US that is their savior while all the useless Western European countries are weak and listening to Russian narratives. Exactly like they learned for decades from Russia belittle anyone and only accepting the US as their peer (because their propaganda doesn’t work without a dangerous enemy).

    Read what you wrote… This does not really make much sense and mostly reads like the primary school level “analysis” that you see thrown around about how all Russians are the same and have always been the same. They actually currently do have a dangerous enemy in Russia so they have not needed to invent one at all. That much is obvious. They have not alienated themselves from the western european countries that are helping them in this fight but I’m sure most reasonable people would agree that has been happening pretty slowly… There are some valid reasons for that but from the POV of the Ukrainian people it absolutely makes sense that they are the ones advocating a stronger and faster response.


  • We have gone very far from what prompted this. Russia’s ability to influence should not be overestimated and it should not be underestimated either. History has shown time and time again that it is relatively easy to get vast amounts of people to believe the most stupid bullshit. Most recently in the United States and in Russia. Such efforts need to be guarded against.

    To bring things closer to what the subject of this community is, unfortunately one way this is becoming a significant problem right now is with the Republicans in America, the next president may well be inclined to stop supporting Ukraine.


  • Not surprising you wont, since you’re also extremely condescending without having earned it in the slightest. Russian propaganda is being produced in english as well as other languages besides just Russian too but I guess you never heard of RT and the sort.

    That said, misinformed rants like these don’t have to be connected to present day Russia. People engage in them also thanks to deep rooted political ideologies dating back to the days of the Soviet Union and so on.


  • Well, it is good to get some indication that you’re maybe not just trying to be an apologist for Russia after all.

    I would suggest you think about how it comes across when you come in shouting about US war crimes on a Lemmy community about Ukraine in an article than concerns how USA is helping with the effort to investigate Russian war crimes though. Like I said it does warrant mention but when it is all you manage to talk about it looks pretty bad for you.





  • While the WW2 comparisons are of course not perfect they’re still certainly interesting to make. Appeasement seems to have had very similar results. Both Germany and Japan also miscalculated when they thought the western powers would be willing to just sue for peace at certain points (Germany thought Britain would give up the fight and go for peace talks once France fell and Japan thought USA would if taking their occupied areas back would be costly enough).