I like terminology

It’s quick, gpu accelerated, can natively display images, and I’m not sure what else.

I don’t use the rest of enlightenment de but have stuck with terminology for years

If you don’t care about the benefits of Gentoo, such as the excellent use flags system, then no it’s very much not worth it.

If you’d rather that every program comes compiled with every possible option, and requires every possible dependency because of this, then you’d be better suited by a binary distro.

If, however, you’re the kind of person that wonders “why does my torrent client support sound, which pulls in these five audio dependencies? I don’t ever need it to make noise, can’t I just disable the ability for torrents to go ‘bing’ when they’re done and forego installing those dependencies?”, then gentoo might be for you.

Mandrake is another

Nearly identical story here, and I agree.

Habits and hardware are definitely the big ones to overcome. I still remember how absolutely lost I felt the first couple times I tried installing slackware in the 90s. I could install/set up windows in my sleep. But then slackware dropped to an unfamiliar command prompt, I can’t dir, there isn’t even a C drive, and now I’m expected to configure something called xfree86. Luckily I wasn’t told to use vi or I’d be stuck there to this day.

New users aren’t thrown into the deep end quite like that anymore, but it’s still a big change for a windows power user. So much of what you learned is not applicable or just the wrong way to do things. Mac users and Windows non-power-users seem to have a much easier time accepting the changes.

It’s definitely not for everyone (is any OS?) but it’s been ‘ready’ as a desktop OS for me since Mandrake 8 in ~2001. That’s about when I ditched windows 2000 and haven’t looked back.

For what it’s worth, I’ve found that windows and mac forums have similar issues if you approach them as an outsider.

I feel similar frustration when faced with trying to accomplish things on those OSes. Mac forums in particular are terrible about “you shouldn’t want to do that”.

It doesn’t solve your problem, just wanted to share that I’ve experienced it from the other side.

As a gentoo user, I’m always confused when people think gentoo is about multi-day compiles. Rebuilding the whole system takes a few hours (not that I ever need to do that), and binary packages are available for the big stuff if you want it. It’s basically just arch with more configuration options.

Not insisting you or anyone should run it, but it’s not as ridiculous as people seem to think.

Unrelated but also kind of related: check out bedrock Linux. It’s a trip.

It lets you ‘hijack’ a Linux install and then you can use package managers and packages from other distros. It’s magical how well it works.

You can if you add to playlist from the search screen.

I keep expecting them to break that workaround, but it keeps working for me

Definitely worth a try for anyone curious.

I’ve been dual booting it since their earlier releases and things are surprisingly smooth now.

Same, though I also enjoyed guayadeque for a period.

Fair enough

I had good luck with quad swap but I’d easily believe the ease of operation depended on exact version of the console etc

A lot of people never got the swap trick message it seems. Especially the quad-swap that worked on later consoles.

It was my main method, but I’ve talked to a surprising number of people who told me it didn’t exist/work

Watching the video this cheat code method seems more complex

Yep. Half my ram as level one, and then a 500gb SSD as L2.

Definitely more than I need for the L2 as the hit rate is only 15% (vs 99% for ARC), but I don’t think there’s much of a downside to slightly over-sizing it these days (there used to be, but L2 is more ram-efficient now).

Not who you responded to, but I have a similar setup using ZFS.

6 drives in raid 6, and then an SSD cache.

Complete opposite here. Typing this on an iPhone 8, and I’ve never retired a phone sooner than 4 years. Usually I give up around 6 due to lack of updates becoming a problem.

A longer support cycle would definitely sway my purchase decision.

Edit: though I am the type to replace batteries, buttons and screens myself as necessary

How are you installing apps?

Can you give an example of the issues you had with a specific app?

Makes me nostalgic for lemmings.

Now we just need to be able to tell the penguins to build ramps or dig holes.

Perhaps this one? I didn’t watch it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqppRC37OgI

What do you mean by “not doing anything during and after install” re Gentoo?

Your computer isn’t held hostage during compilation of that was your impression

Yeah I think it was just Noah. Chris hosted a news podcast for a while that treaded into some conspiracy areas, but wasn’t right-wing.

Either way I find their current setup pretty good at staying away from politics unless they’re directly related to the technology conversation at hand.