• YappyMonotheist@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I’m sensing some resistance here, lol.

    I feel like it’s always not POC who feel weird about it. Lemmy is a Western site, Westerners are known for being not just racist but violently racist (white supremacy is the “ideology” that allows for colonization and Transatlantic slave trade after all, and places like America have ICE for brown people and the police for black people, many of these folks will just end up being incarcerated and enslaved like back in the day), plus American current admin is openly and loudly racist amongst other things so why should it be surprising that some racist takes/vibes would be felt in a Western (mostly American?) site? You might not notice, ofc, the way a fish doesn’t notice water, but you should expect it at least in theory.

    You’re telling on yourselves: you’re either a POS white supremacist in denial, or you’re weak minded and scared of potential accountability to the point you’d rather deny the experience of those who have suffered because of an ethnocultural trait of your peoples. Of course, it’s better to be the latter than the former. 👍

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      6 days ago

      This may shock you, but there are vile racists all over the globe. Ever tried being a black guy in Japan?

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        Hasn’t been my experience (I haven’t been to Japan yet, I know they’re xenophobic, lol) but I bet they’re not violent or historically, extremely inhuman about it. And if Lemmy was a majority Japanese site, I also wouldn’t be surprised if most people here held some racist/xenophobic beliefs, of course! They kind of are the Germanics of the East after all, lol. Idk what this means, are you a black guy telling me “it’s not just Westerners!” (ofc, there’s even colourism in African communities, I know because I married into one!) for whatever reason or are you a white dude saying the same? Cause, if it’s the latter, you’re just making my point…

        • gwl [he/him]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          They were violently racist towards Okinawan Japanese at one point, and part of the reason Japan is largely a monoculture now it’s that a lot of the native people on the smaller islands got completely wiped out

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            Add to that the well known atrocities committed against the Chinese in WW2, backed and fueled by an ideology of racial supremacy, and you can see why they could see eye-to-eye with the West. 🤷

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    Legitimate question: why can’t black people be people, and must always be “folks”?

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      As a pasty, hand-wringing white boy, I find that “folks” is a softer word with basically the same meaning. The phrase “black people” is really easy to infuse with venom - those Ps are easy to spit, accidentally or worse - and is at least one step too far along the euphemism treadmill for me, whereas “black folks” feels a lot softer and kinder.

      And as one other commenter says about themselves, I’ve found that I use the word “folks” for other maligned groups too. I think I used it in a thread about furries the other day.

      How the targets of the word take it, I couldn’t tell you, but I’d bet I’d find some who’d be fine with it, and others who’d think I’m an idiot. That’s just the way it goes.

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      Racists my dude, racists.

      You see in Reddit, for example, /r/jokes posts that are just straight-up “OTHER RACE IS INFERIOR, LOLOLOLOL” and they can stay up for multiple hours before the mods delete and/or they get enough reports for autoremoval. Or people rolling with that casual racism in a comment, maybe even something they don’t realise it’s racist, and whether they get told to stop or not.

      It’s really just about how quickly people respond to racist posts with a shutdown.

      OP is innocently asking “have you encountered racists in the wild here, y’know, cause they’re rife on some other platforms” (heck, twitter is basically just The Racism App)

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      This is an “I don’t see color” sentiment.

      Your race shapes how you interact and interpret the world, not because of nature but nurture. People of different races will have different experiences with the same source of media or media environment.

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      I don’t know why race would make a difference in someone’s experience on a website given that you can’t see the people you’re talking with.

      Unrelated but given the amount of casual misogyny I see on Lemmy I think “wow, maybe I don’t enjoy this place that much.” and interact less often because of it, even though I know it’s not aimed at me since they can’t see me when they hit post!

      Oh wait…