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      Go on… I don’t like much all these populists/narcissistic/nationalists but first Poland’s Lech Kaczyński dies in a airplane accident, Slovakia’s Robert Fico gets shot, Romania’s election gets cancelled and then the front runner banned, and then the second banned too (have any evidence been published?!). Duterte gets arrested in Manila and sent to the Hague (Philippines is not a ICC signatory)… I remember McAfee and Epstein suicides but miraculously cameras in prisons failed to work… and today in Spain the records from a spy working for the CIA that spied on Assange gets all deleted… while in Spanish top authorities custody! I am not fan of these eccentric people, but you have to give it to them there is something in our “law and order” system that is “odd” to say the least… and us blindly clapping is worrisome.

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          A a troll is a person who posts deliberately offensive or provocative messages online… what was so offensive or provocative? I am new in social media and even posting with my real name. I thought lemmy would be different from what i see in other media… and one of the first comments I get from an observation is “Fuck off”. Don’t worry, I’ll go back to my shell but if you are a genuine person, think that those type of responses is what make the internet so toxic today.

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            Just to show either how transparent you are or how much of a fool you are, let me duckduckgo “concern troll” for you.

            Again, [EDIT: kindly shove off]. You’re either one of those tools who wants to both sides [EDIT: freakin’] fascism or you’re a genuine paid opposition troll. Either way I don’t have any more time for you.

            EDIT: Lol, you’re two month old account is just a bunch of concern trolling comments! What a tool. Get a better job, loser.

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              Re to your EDIT: Again, what did you see bad in my comments… wanted European Union no relying much on American corporations, favor impartiality from the FOSS community? What I don’t understand from you so much concerned anti_Trump pro-democracy is that if Trump expels me (I am an European Union citizen in the US), and if I had some prominence he would, you will be the first one clapping. You are no so different from the ones you claim to oppose.

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              Sure… but in my statement with 9 claims you have not disproved a single one… but wasting plenty of time to all of us with “f*ck offs”. Of course, it can be coincidental, but something gives me that if you are anti-establishment, odds are you can easily get disfranchised or disappeared in one way or another. What evidence Romania gave for the cancellation of the elections and banning the front runners… Russian interference?? How? with bots in social media really… have you seen any study published on that? Any… do check?? The only thing I know is Romanians have been always highly skeptical of their government (that comes from the communist times) but since 3 ears ago are of all the latest EU rhetoric (although they benefit greatly from EU) and doubt Russia is responsible of that. Regarding “concern troll”… I disprove all basically all populist politicians, specially Le Pen, but also believe there is always a bit of truth in populism and burring or worse yet, ridiculing it, it is highly counterintuitive; address what they misunderstand. Brexit and Trump happened because of dismissive and insulting comments like yours addressed to people with concerns.

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    If you’re contemplating whether this was a good move or not consider this:

    Kremlin condemned this immediately.

    So this is a good thing 👍🏻

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      Worry less about what Kremlin wants and what million of French now, like millions of Romanians, feel completely disfranchised. I don’t know if Le Pen’s ruling holds any water, (I know Romania’s does not!), but I see corruption cases left and right everywhere but the only candidates that are suspended are the same type… anti-establishment ones with a high degree of making an impact. As I mentioned in other posts, I detest the Le Pens (father and daughter), but not their ability to listen to their voters.

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        They are not anti-estabilishment. They are pro russian/soviet estabilishment. They are trying to build soviet type dictatorships whit Putin’s help and guidance, using his propaganda talking points, propaganda distribution machine and doing his bidding.

        Also, they are not listening to voters at all. They are propagating and instilling fear and hatred in the voters. Because fearful and hateful people can be easily manipulated. So they are manufacturing this voter base, by spreading an unimaginable amount of fake news and propaganda, until the more susceptible layer of society gets brainwashed into their rhetoric.

        And once they are brainwashed and terrorized by imaginary monsters and shadow figures (Soros, jews, migrants etc.), they are locked in. They are in a cult. Their mind is fully closed down, their vote locked in to the far-right Putinist. Because at this point all contradictory information and evidence against their world view is just noise to them. They are not listening to any outside info at that point. Their brain is just constantly looping around the terror that they are living in: Soros, deep state, migrants, LGBTQ - all out to get them.

        And their only saviour, the night in shining armour? The far-right extremist who promises to save them for all these imaginary monsters and phobias. Le-Pen, Farage, Fico etc.

        And if they gain enough power to realize their authoritarian agenda, then your country is gone and flushed down they toilet. I know what I’m talking about, greetings from Hungary.

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          I agree with many of your premises, but not the main one. People are brainwashed for sure that migrants, jews, muslims, etc are the problem, but they do have grievances that the state does not care for them. Blaming Putin on that perception is silly, he wish he was that powerful. US had for decades massively aired propaganda in all corners of the world, financed NGOs, payed journalists and the results were mixed. Putin does not employ not even a 5% of the US budget into those operations. Farage is a good example, he noticed that the British are not happy, that Brussels was getting more powerful and blamed all in Brussels with memes like curved bananas etc (I know trade and knew Brexit was horrible for both side of the Channel) but I don’t blame Putin for Farage or Trump… they both are just opportunistic in a situation those countries fail to deliver. UK and US are both in a worse situation due to these two politicians, but banning them both would have been far worse since the discontent still unaddressed. Blaming in Putin for them both is just ridiculous, he wish he had that power!

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    Man, imagine banning people convicted of crimes of corruption from the government.

    Sounds like totalitarian woke leftist beta snowflake bullshit to me

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    Seems like a light punishment that will allow her to run after the 4 year ban runs out. And conservatives love the persecution angle and having victim complexes. Corruption should bar you from a government position forever.

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/31/marine-le-pen-barred-from-running-for-french-presidency-in-2027

    Judges handed Le Pen a five-year ban on running for public office with the added provision that it would take immediate effect. It will apply even if she appeals.

    Le Pen, who left the court before the hearing had finished, was also sentenced to four years in prison with two years suspended and and the other two to be served outside jail with an electronic bracelet. She was handed a €100,000 (£84,000) fine. Neither the prison penalty nor fine will be applied until her appeals are exhausted.

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    Considering we chose to have no consequences for our felon ex-president, this seems like the better route to go…

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    Any French commenters able to contextualize this news for the rest of us? Le Pen’s party has been gaining popularity in recent years, if I recall correctly. How is this likely to impact them? Are they organized enough to continue on without her, or is this likely to seriously hurt their electoral chances?

    It’s always good to see a fascist lose but I’m not tuned in enough to French politics to know the full significance of this.

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      If by recent years, you mean the last 20+ years, sure.

      I’m not sure it truly hurts the Front National chances in 2027, however, the expected heir, Jordan Bardella, is not nearly as smart as MLP, so maybe it will make enough of a difference if it ends up a close thing. I would say the political situation in France is pretty volatile, hard to say what it will look like in 2 years.

      There is also the possibility (slim, imho, but still real) of MLP either winning her appeal (which should take place sometime in 2026), or at least having the ineligibility sanction removed, which I think would give her a huge boost.

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          For just the appeal I don’t think anyone would need to rush anything to have it done before 2027, if it goes to cassation and beyond it probably would need to be rushed somehow for it to happen before 2027

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      Financing parties is complicated by design as the French system tries to avoid interference from companies or wealthy individuals. RN was struggling because they are greedy incompetent pigs. So they decided collectively to use the money dedicated by the European parliament to recruit parliamentary assistants to finance the party’s activities. And they got caught.

      This won’t affect their chances as racist voters will still vote for racist candidates, whatever the candidate. We will just have a new racist guy (Jordan Bardella) instead of Le Pen.

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      It’s not so recent. Her father was in the second turn of the presidential election in 2002. Still the RN (rassemblement National) far right party is bigger than ever with 123 elected member in the National assembly (out of 575). They don’t really have a back up. She took the reigns from her father, she is the name of the party. The second (Bardella) is young and inapt, and he also has some problem with the law (fake work)

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    Just asking for a friend. Did they stop public beheadings in France…

    ( Please note, this is just an awful joke. In no way do I advocate the death sentence. in any shape or form.)