Xpost from UK Energy.

Are we never going to stop this madness?

Nuclear will not help us with immediate energy needs, it will not help with climate change and it is worse for the environment, and it costs more than renewables.

The only people who benefit are the shareholders of nuclear companies and the government shit stains who pocket their brown envelopes and take the “consulting” jobs offered by the industry for services rendered.

And all this time, effort and money, OUR MONEY, is not being spent on renewables that can do what we need NOW.

We cannot continue to accept this or any other option that is not renewable.

Any and all opposition against renewable energy is generated and spread by the nuclear and fossil fuel industries.

Nothing I’ve said here is even controversial, there isn’t any hiding from it.

We have to fight this and we have to win.

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    1 year ago

    Wow, looks like we truly are all fucked. If even people on here think this way, we are not surviving. I’m sad for the young and the poor who will bear the brunt, as usual.

    Enjoy the last of it, those who follow us are not going to. The next few generations will be powerless against the effects of global climate heating. The enormous loss of life and extreme conditions will be a fitting end to our pitiful apathy.

    I’m glad I won’t be around to witness it but neither will you, which annoys me somewhat.

    A pox on you all.

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      1 year ago

      Mate, if you want to convince people that your point of view is better than theirs you might start by not cursing them with poxes.

      Maybe stop moaning at them and people might want to listen?

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        1 year ago

        Heh, the curse came after the down votes. Interestingly, the thoughtful comments engaging with the OP came after that and I’ve replied accordingly.

        If you want to engage with that then please do, I’m all ears.

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      Nuclear energy is much much cleaner than gas. If we can replace our reliance on gas with nuclear then that’s a step in the right direction. If, for any reason whatsoever, nuclear is a more viable option than renewable, even if that reason is corporate greed, then we take it and then phase nuclear out later as we increase the renewable load. The situation is too urgent to quibble over which green energy to use. We just need to get shut of gas and coal.

      Some facts:
      Nuclear energy is not a contributor to greenhouse gases.
      Nuclear power plants are safe.

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        I’m not disputing the cleanness or the safety of nuclear. I think it’s very telling that much of the response here has aimed at those points when they haven’t been made.

        It shows just how effective the nuclear and oil industries have been in spreading their lies and misinformation. It’s very worrying.

        It’s too late for nuclear now. The cost of nuclear is too great for now.

        We don’t have the time and the funding must be directed at renewables. Anything else will be a big mistake.

        If we get out of this and manage to give ourselves a future, explore all the nuclear and other technologies you want. Have at it. But now is not the time, and time is running out.

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          Do you think we will be able to create or import enough renewable energy to fill the hole left by gas in the time it would take to build these reactors? How? And what is your response to the legitimate concern that renewable energy technology at its current maturity does not provide a stable power base?

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            Do you think we will be able to create or import enough renewable energy to fill the hole left by gas in the time it would take to build these reactors?

            If we want to, we could easily generate far more than we currently use, and far more than needed in the future as well. The build time of the new reactors is too far away to be relevant and the funding is needed now.

            How?

            By directing funding and resources from everything that would otherwise reduce or impede the expansion of renewables.

            And what is your response to the legitimate concern that renewable energy technology at its current maturity does not provide a stable power base?

            Mature it quickly. There will be more than enough if we stop faffing about.