I find it odd there has been very little noise about this. Like sweet its awesome to see that there is a new Counter strike and the features they are adding seem awesome. People were very angry when Blizzard did this same exact thing, where is the anger right now about this?

I’m not here to say Valve should forever support their games, its just seems weird to kill it when there are fundamental differences between the games. Kill the official servers, that is fine since the community will just adjust and host their own servers but basically zapping the game out of existence seems wrong and it continues the worrying trends we have that can revolve around game preservation.

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    Because with Overwatch 2, the changes were so small and meaningless that it could have just been an update to the original game. CS2 is on a whole new engine and has significant upgrades that couldn’t have been implemented in a simple update. Not to mention all the promised features OW2 was supposed to have that they backtracked on. That being said, I don’t exactly agree that they should have outright replaced CS:GO, but it’s not really the same as what Blizzard did. If they had replaced the original OW but had a significant reason to do so like Valve did, people wouldn’t be so upset at them.

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      Do you know what OW2 changed, since you call it small and meaningless?

      Imo the gameplay updates with a move to 5v5 were pretty significant. The engine stayed the same, afaik, but some things were overhauled, although I don’t know if it was just visual changes.

      According to some comments I’ve read, CS2 feels somewhat rushed. Some game modes and maps are missing, and the subtick server stuff also seems like a mixed bag.

      So, why is it fine for one of these games, but not the other? For someone who hasn’t played either game in years, it feels like a similar level of change for either game.

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        OW2 changed the number of players on a team, rebalance some heros and changes some day maps to night and some night maps to day, nothing that couldn’t have just been a big update. The only justification for a whole new game was the free PvE mode, which they walked back on and is no longer free. Not to mention that people who’ve had hands on with it are saying it’s not even very good. CS2 on the other hand is on an entirely new engine with significant upgrades across the board, both in the technical aspect and graphical. I played some just last night and the difference between 2 and GO are night and day, no way it could have just been an update. Also it’s been brought to my attention that, unlike what I previously thought, CS:GO is indeed still available to run community servers on, unlike the original OW which is lost completely to the world.

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          OW2 PvE was never going to be free, and whether people find whatever mode was added fun or not should not matter.

          Dota 2 changed their engine and that was handled in an update, we didn’t get Dota 3.

          You do however have a point with previous CSGO versions still being accessible, if that still works.

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            OW2 PvE was 100% originally going to be free, then they cancelled it outright and only brought it back when the community spoke up about it, but now for a price. But yeah, as far as I’m aware CS:GO is still available so unlike OW2, you don’t like the new one, you don’t have to play it, you still habe options. Another commenter posted the how to if that’s something you’re interested in.

            edit: also as far as I’m aware, Dota 2’s engine update was just a graphical update, they didn’t change anything fundamental to the game. As I said before the difference between CS:GO or CS2 is night and day, they changed a lot.

            Edit 2: also I think it’s a little disingenuous to imply that the quality of a game mode that people now have to pay for doesn’t matter