• gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    Jesus Christ I don’t think I’ve ever seen a posts comments so full of reasons this won’t work.

    You guys don’t even need your media to dissuade you, you just convince each other not to do anything.

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      17 days ago

      I wonder why a bunch of people might be jumping onto social media, spreading pessimism and suspicion about protests and discouraging people from attending.

      Edit: I asked every single person who said that their protest-aware friends told them this was a “false flag” or something, what protest their friends would recommend attending instead. I’m curious to see what the responses are.

      Edit: One of the accounts which is expressing well-intentioned nail-biting concern that something really bad might happen to the people who go to these protests, and urging people to stay safe if they do decide to go… is the same account that has been telling me about how Ukraine is the bad guys, and the Democrats are just as bad as the Republicans, and other interesting things.

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      16 days ago

      The thing is if everyone said “fantastic! This will be huge” and the actual protests are underwhelming, well that serves to confirm the false narrative that a very small minority of people are upset.

      Declaring high expectations and delivering low is a path to undermine your cause. Waiting until after the fact to explain why sounds like making excuses rather.

      The protest in my region was like maybe 50 people. I don’t think this is because people are broadly happy, it’s because as many many people pointed out, this was poor planning. The optics of pulling off a huge protest in only a week would have been amazing, but just impossible in the real world.

      • P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        16 days ago

        Even if it was a huge protest, the psychopaths in charge will walk over their backs and casually walk into the capitol.

        Protests don’t do shit because you cannot convince people who don’t feel emotion to suddenly care about your situation. They only care about self-enrichment, power, and self-preservation. Do you have enough political capital or leverage to influence a politician?

        Maybe if you threaten their sense of self-preservation, you might cause them to notice.

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          16 days ago

          Maybe if you threaten their sense of self-preservation, you might cause them to notice.

          I think that’s really the unstated point of large protests. You get hundreds of thousands of people being present and obviously angry, but “peaceful”, you have to be doing the calculation of how many of those are on the brink of something more if their voices are not heard and things proceed or even accelerate.

          Of course, on the other hand we are dealing with an administration that thinks an ethnic cleanse of Palestinians to set up a resort city sounds like a safe idea, so not sure there’s anyone really thinking about the risks.

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            15 days ago

            we are dealing with an administration that thinks an ethnic cleanse of Palestinians to set up a resort city sounds like a safe idea

            Right. Psychopaths.

            How do you force psychopaths to care about somebody else’s POV? You can’t!