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      Still, misleading title, he’s not proposing a war. Could it potentially lead to war? Yeah but it’s very, very unlikely Mexico would actually declare war on America.

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        What the fuck do you think putting your military into another country uninvited is? What the fuck are you doing quibbling over “potentially” a war or not? What you’re essentially saying here is that you’re ok with it as long if Mexico cowers and doesn’t fight back.

        This is a disgusting level of nationalism. You’re already making excuses for america.

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        The United States is not an arbiter of which Mexicans are to be extrajudicially executed by drone strikes. You’re acting like a coward who’s only too happy the Mexicans are too weak to strike back.

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          Buddy all I’m saying is the title is misleading. I’m obviously against the US bombing Mexican cartels, I just don’t think it’s going to start a war.

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            Yes, you know that the US can do almost anything it wants and that it won’t trigger a war with Mexico. It can sanction thousands or millions to death by starvation and lack of medical supplies. It can bomb people. It can seize and occupy territory if it really wants to. Not because the US wouldn’t be waging war then, but because the Mexicans and the rest of latin america are too weak to fight back. And in knowing this you can then claim that, actually, ‘this is misleading 4/5 pinocchios Ron DeSantis only wants the right to do a little gunboat diplomacy with capital punishment characteristics and that’s not really a war’.

            I’m sure that if China drone bombed someone in New York the Americans would be super chill about it.

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        The US hasn’t declared a war since WW2, they’ve still gone to war. Neither the US nor Libya declared war on each other but it still counts as a war when the US bombs the absolute shit out of a country.

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              Well yeah, you OBJECTIVELY can’t call what happened in Libya a “war”. It was bad and unnecessary, but by definition, not a war… You did not have US troops fighting Libyan troops.

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                So because the US troops were using weapons the Libyan troops couldn’t effectively fight back against, it doesn’t count as a war?

                “It wasn’t a battle, it was a just a massacre, so it’s OK”

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                  You’re fighting with the air. I very clearly said Libya wasn’t ok.

                  You’re right, massacres aren’t battles and we shouldn’t call them that. Of course that doesn’t make it any better but why call it a battle if it’s not?

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                    the argument starts as “It doesn’t count as war” and then you run to your bailey for it to become “Hey I’m not endorsing those actions!”

                    Seen it half a dozen times from where I started scrolling

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            Of course, I forgot when you call it something other than war then it’s not a war! That’s why we have the Korean Police Action, the Vietnam Police Action, the Police Actions in Panama and Grenada, Desert Police Action 1 & 2 in Iraq, and the Global Police Action on Terror! None of those were wars, right?