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okwithmydecay@leminal.space to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 23 hours ago

Keir Starmer Was a Waste of a Prime Minister

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Keir Starmer Was a Waste of a Prime Minister

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okwithmydecay@leminal.space to UK Politics@feddit.ukEnglish · 23 hours ago
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Keir Starmer Was a Waste of a Prime Minister | Steven Methven
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The prime minister’s resignation tears will be the only ones shed today, writes Steven Methven.
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    The karma of it all. Perhaps Jeremy Corbyn will be on hand to help him through the agony of a knife in the back?

    🤣 These guys are obsessed with Jeremy Corbyn.

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      Weird that they’re so obsessed with the labour party when Corbyn has his whole new one

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      • Elected to lead the party
      • Shit at leading the party
      • Nobody wants him to lead the party any more

      it’s a conspiracy

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        Yes there was literally a conspiracy by the right-wing of labour to sabotage Corbyn https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html

        https://labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/The-Forde-Report.pdf

        despite this he still garnered more votes in his loss than Starmer did in his victory

        Hopefully Burnham learned a lesson and moves the party left back to it’s socialist roots, rather than the stammer policy of running to the right on every issue trying to keep up with the Tories/reform/restore’s racist populism

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          It seems to us that many on both the Left and the Right were (and in many cases still are) so firmly convinced of being the wronged party that all evidence of failings within their own faction was dismissed. The reality of what happened in this period is much more nuanced; many (though not all) of the issues came down to poor communication and paranoia rather than bad faith actors.

          And:

          Did HQ staff stick to a defensive strategy in bad faith, because they wanted to lose the election? No. We find that HQ staff genuinely considered that a primarily defensive strategy would secure the best result for the Party, and we have not seen evidence to suggest that such a strategy was advanced in bad faith. More broadly the evidence available to us did not support claims that HQ staff wanted the Party to do badly in the 2017 general election (though many expected it to, and some had mixed feelings about what the better than anticipated result would mean for the Party’s future and for their own roles).

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            The transcripts show that Mr Corbyn’s economic adviser Ali Moussavi said of Mr Corbyn to other senior staff in 2015: “We need to finish him.”

            And:

            A press officer responded: “Hanging and burning does seem like overkill.” Then head of broadcasting Jo Green said that any Labour MP “who nominates Corbyn ‘to widen the debate’ deserves to be taken out and shot.” Then policy communications officer Dan Hogan added that a staff member who “whooped” during Corbyn’s speech “should be shot.”

            And senior staff member Sarah Mulholland said she hoped that a young Labour member on the left of the party, who it was acknowledged has mental-health issues, “dies in a fire.” Then audit director Mike Creighton responded: “That’s a very bad wish, Sarah. But if he does I wouldn’t piss on him to put him out.”

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              Where are these quotes from? Searching for the relevant names in either of your links turns up nothing

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                Quotes from the whatsapp leaks https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/labour-hq-staff-joked-about-burning-jeremy-corbyn-and-shooting-his-supporters

                https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/06/labour-report-misused-private-messages-portray-members-racist

                https://dorseteye.com/the-work-of-the-labour-partys-governance-and-legal-unit-in-relation-to-antisemitism-2014-2019-part-3/

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                  They’re from the Forde report that you linked.

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                    Which you understand is a document produced after corbyn was kicked out of the party?

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