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      He was in Luhansk, a region which has democratically chosen to be a part of Russia due in large part to the horrific actions of the Ukrainian regime towards the people of Luhansk.

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          Was it? According to who? The people who have been selling artillery shells to drop on the people of Luhansk for over nine years? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

          Michael Radachovsky, political advisor to the European Commission, noted that there were no violations in terms of voting procedures at the polling stations he visited.

          “The elections were well organized in terms of how people were treated, the process itself was very well organized,” he stated.

          https://mronline.org/2022/12/02/the-narrative-of-sham-elections/

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            “Well organized” doesnt mean legitimate. The referendum was organized without the consent of the legitimate government of Ukraine, was rightfully boycotted by Ukrainians, was scoped beyond the occupied areas and included non residents shipped in from russia.

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              And let’s not forget the polling. Over 94% voter turnout (or an illicit vote) and 98% voting for annexation? You can’t even get 80% of people to vote for “don’t shoot yourself in the face” and we’re supposed to believe the annexation vote was near-unanimous?

              The propagandists really should’ve made up a number closer to 60% with 85% turnout, enough that a majority of the population could be said to have voted for annexation, while still being believable.

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              So you support Turkey over the Kurds, right? Given that they had a well-organized Declaration of Independence and autonomy, without the consent of the legitimate government in Turkey.

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              Then please tell me how a region under genocidal siege from the very state it is internationally recognized to be a part of should legitimately break away and establish its own sovereignty.

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                That’s a straw man, because in this case they weren’t under genocidal siege by the state it is internationally recognized to be a part of

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                  How is that relevant? The topic at hand is sovereignty and what the supposed correct way to go about achieving it is, not shitty economic liberalization.

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                Ukraine was, and remains, at war with separatist factions fomented by Russia. If Russia didn’t want a war in Donbas, they shouldn’t have started a war there

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                  Russia started a war in 2014?

                  Whether or not the separatist faction is fomented by a foreign power, what gives Ukraine the right to shell them for nearly a decade on end, make their language and culture illegal, and exclude them from the public sphere? In early 2022 Ukraine was preparing for military action on Donbas, to essentially remove all remaining dissenters.

                  I think Ukraine, under direction of its NATO puppeteers, has done a great job of fomenting separatism in culturally Russian minorities present in Ukraine all on their own.

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          That’s quite a lot of confidence for an objectively false statement.

          Michael Radachovsky, political advisor to the European Commission, noted that there were no violations in terms of voting procedures at the polling stations he visited.

          “The elections were well organized in terms of how people were treated, the process itself was very well organized,” he stated.

          https://mronline.org/2022/12/02/the-narrative-of-sham-elections/

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    As a reminder, betraying your country to an invader is not typically a charge that meets with a jury trial.

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      …and ends with a very quick sentence, even in countries where very quick sentences are otherwise frowned upon. Treason just seems to usually be an exception to the rule.

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    Never collaborate with occupiers. Lots of people in Afghanistan learned that the hard way, too.

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      The consequence of someone saying their opinion should in no case to be murdered. It is wrong to murder people because they have a different opinion.

      I did not know he was also a collaborator …

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        Mr Struk … actively pursued a ‘pro-Russian position’ in the last week by 'communicating with the Russian Federation

        Actively supporting an invading force during war isn’t “having a different opinion,” it’s treason.

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          No disagree from me. I was just triggered by the clickbait title that does not say anything about collaboration.

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      Should check out the podcast “Sad Oligarch” it’s about the rash of Russian oligarchs and such throwing themselves out of windows, and killing their families then themselves.

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        I recommend it as well. It’s not just people falling out of windows, they use all kinds of methods to get rid of people they don’t like.

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      That’s the thing, see. A bullet. It is known he was murdered.

      Somewhere in the Kremlin someone is thinking that this was entirely without style. So blunt. Barbarous. When a man falls from a window it is … an accident.

      Meanwhile, somewhere in Ukraine, someone is thinking “Style be damned, this was a message.”

      They will continue to disagree about which method is best regardless of specific situation and intended subtlety until one of them is shot or falls out of a window.