• jabjoe@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 months ago

    All of this won’t fix things (and may well make it worse). What is needed more that anything else is more money. And because it been starved for a decade, a lot more money.

    The NHS is not the only thing that was false-economy cut. Lots of services got cut and the result where people ended up, in a worse state, falling into the NHS.

    One thing that would help the NHS is to restore those other services, and deal with people before things get so bad it’s their health failing when the state helps them. Spent money on mental health and other care services to take load off the NHS.

    • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I hear you. It needs more money. Great. But how? Maybe it’s time to rethink how we raise funds for the NHS?

      • jabjoe@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        Tax wealthy people and corporations more. There is a lot of wealth untapped and obscene levels of wealth.

        • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          Wealthy people and corporations are the subset of the population that are most able to hide their income. You’ll end up pissing off middle and low income earners and businesses this way.

          Again, how do France and Germany have better health outcomes by their systems? I’m genuinely curious.

            • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              I’m not disagreeing. What I’m saying is why can’t the NHS be funded using a similar model as France or Germany? You know, in order to get more money into it. I want to hear ideas about that.

              • jabjoe@feddit.uk
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                7 months ago

                Both countries have a better equality score than us. If we were more equal, tax vs insurance might be more a academic. We are the most unequal in Europe and the rich see a insurance health system as an way to pay less. No, no and no.