If you actually read the page, it’s intended as a tongue-in-cheek box-checker.
This document was originally called a “Code of Conduct” and was created for the purpose of filling in a box on “supplier registration” forms submitted to the SQLite developers by some clients.
This document continues to be used for its original purpose - providing a reference to fill in the “code of conduct” box on supplier registration forms.
@colonial@Sibbo I’m actually glad I did read the page itself - it’s clearly satire, making fun of how “sacred” others seem to hold their codes of conduct/ethics. I’m glad I read through that - I see no problems with it or in using SQLite.
They are serious about the religious stuff. And someone who kicks the concept of a code of conduct with their feet like this is surely not a person that is nice to be around.
In the face of today’s attention, which has included a wave of aggressive responses accusing Hipp of un-Christian behavior – he tells us he updated the preface to highlight the fact that by adopting St Benedict’s rules he was not seeking to exclude anyone.
“Nobody is excluded from the SQLite community due to biological category or religious creed,” he told us. “The preface to the CoC should make this clear. The only way to get kicked out of the SQLite community is by shouting, flaming, and disrespectful behavior. In 18 years, only one person has ever been banned from the mailing list.”
He also said that he considered only retaining the bullet points that would be relevant to the project, but ultimately decided that would be disrespectful to the original text and its author. Seems fine to me.
He also said that he considered only retaining the bullet points that would be relevant to the project, but ultimately decided that would be[ing] disrespectful to the original text and its author. Seems [other religions] is fine to me.
Thanks, everyone knows they have a weird coc. It obviously only applies to the maintainers/members of the project though and is more of a statement than something that is actually enforced. As a convinced atheist, I also find it pretty weird but see absolutely no reason at all to avoid sqlite because of that. What matters is: Code quality/correctness (which is absolutely superb when it comes to sqlite) and license, of course. Why would I care about the authors beliefs? They don’t even directly benefit from me using their product.
It doesn’t even apply to the members of the project. It’s St. Benedict’s rule, and only chapter 4 of it, relating to the life in a monastery, but “No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea.” It has a whole bunch of good advice for living in a community, interspersed with religion. But if you work together on a project, “be not lazy” is not a bad suggestion. Nor is “Be a help in times of trouble”. Many of those concepts have been proposed in other religions or social contracts all over the world. And it cannot be taken too seriously: “Speak no useless words or words that move to laughter”
As for programmers: Respect your seniors. Love your juniors.
From their “code of ethics”
There are even more strange ones, but I hope you get the picture. Reason enough to use something else if possible.
If you actually read the page, it’s intended as a tongue-in-cheek box-checker.
@colonial @Sibbo I’m actually glad I did read the page itself - it’s clearly satire, making fun of how “sacred” others seem to hold their codes of conduct/ethics. I’m glad I read through that - I see no problems with it or in using SQLite.
It’s not satire.
https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/22/sqlite_code_of_conduct/
They are serious about the religious stuff. And someone who kicks the concept of a code of conduct with their feet like this is surely not a person that is nice to be around.
I fail to see how that’s an issue.
Also, in the very page you linked, he clarified:
He also said that he considered only retaining the bullet points that would be relevant to the project, but ultimately decided that would be disrespectful to the original text and its author. Seems fine to me.
Thanks, everyone knows they have a weird coc. It obviously only applies to the maintainers/members of the project though and is more of a statement than something that is actually enforced. As a convinced atheist, I also find it pretty weird but see absolutely no reason at all to avoid sqlite because of that. What matters is: Code quality/correctness (which is absolutely superb when it comes to sqlite) and license, of course. Why would I care about the authors beliefs? They don’t even directly benefit from me using their product.
@words_number @Sibbo that was one hell of an opening sentence to misread.
It doesn’t even apply to the members of the project. It’s St. Benedict’s rule, and only chapter 4 of it, relating to the life in a monastery, but “No one is required to follow The Rule, to know The Rule, or even to think that The Rule is a good idea.” It has a whole bunch of good advice for living in a community, interspersed with religion. But if you work together on a project, “be not lazy” is not a bad suggestion. Nor is “Be a help in times of trouble”. Many of those concepts have been proposed in other religions or social contracts all over the world. And it cannot be taken too seriously: “Speak no useless words or words that move to laughter”
As for programmers: Respect your seniors. Love your juniors.
Some background: https://www.theregister.com/2018/10/22/sqlite_code_of_conduct/
I would think that’s satire of insanely long and irrelevant rules documents.
I dk I don’t think you can fake a persecution complex like that.
Holy crap. I’ve used this thing for years and never had a clue they’re a bunch of fruitcakes.
@Sibbo @chokidar they seem cool to me