• Duży Szef [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    The sanctions on the DPRK are enough of a crime and yet the collective west still pushes the country to see how far they can go with bullying them. The sanctions ought to end now, so that the people of the DPRK get access to resources they need most for a better life. But the constant scare mongering just continues, as the small nation struggles for it’s right to exist against the genocidal American regime.

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    Yes yes, stonetoss edit, he’s a nazi, we all know that. Fuck him, just enjoy the edit.

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          So the current guy in charge was not elected in a free election, and is the son of the last guy. And the last guy was the same thing… 🤔

          Tell me again what system is this?

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              Again: not American, that’s not a burn mate.

              You’re also comparing a country with a flawed democracy with a country with no democracy at all.

              You’re either a retard, a troll, or the dear leader is making you work really hard for those food rations.

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                  You’re literally listing powerful American families and comparing them with a country with an enforced direct lineage from father to son. In case you’re not aware, this is called monarchy.

                  Tell me: was Biden Obama’s son, and Obama Bush’s son?

                  The American political system might be highly flawed, but at least they are not sending the family of the ones who dare to leave to prison camps.

                  And if you say that North Korea does not do that, then you have fallen for North Korean propaganda.

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                    Monarchy?! Hahahaha, each is elected to a position that in actuality doesn’t have very much power. Elected. Show me where in the DPRK’s constitution it calls for a monarchy. You’ve fall for American conservative propaganda and fall hard

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          Kim Il Sung -> Kim Jong Il -> Kim Jong Un

          How is this basically not a monarchy?

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              Nice whataboutism you got there.

              I’m not American, so I that’s not a burn, in case you were trying.

              Tell me, were those in power for decades, and then passed on their direct rule to their son without an election?

              Did they also create legends about themselves? Really absurd stuff like they don’t need to poop?

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                You don’t have to be American. You are defending defending the US by libeling the DPRK

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                  Oh, so you actually believe that elections are free in Korea?

                  Please tell me more.

                  Do you also believe that power does not corrupt, and that Santa is real?

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          Yes. They literally have their first leader as the ‘eternal president’ and worship him like a god.

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          What I don’t understand is the “and humanize the people of the DPRK.” line. Who is dehumanizing North Koreans, exactly? This is about their government. Regardless of how the government achieves this, be it coercion or brainwashing, you can still see them as people, ya’kno?

          can a government simply organize that level of popular participation without the actual support of the people?

          Umm, yes?

          all it requires is some good old fashioned US bombers to tip things in the “peoples” favor? For a liberal this makes perfect sense.

          No, it doesn’t lol Liberalism isn’t synonymous with 'Murica. I know, huge shocker.

          That’s some grade-A tankie shitposting, though. 👏

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          I am a BRAZILIAN socialist, but DPRK is a totalitarian dictatorship that isn’t truly socialist and have serius problem with starvation and stuff so they aren’t really good at all.

          The real socialism is the Democratic Socialism.

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            DPRK is a totalitarian dictatorship that isn’t truly socialist.

            Source?

            they aren’t really good at all.

            Source?

            The real socialism is the Democratic Socialism.

            Democratic Socialism is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

            I am a BRAZILIAN socialist.

            SOURCE?

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              Democratic socialism is nearer to anarcho communism than those far right wingers.

              Also you want me to prove I’m Brazilian!? How am I supposed to do that?

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                Democratic socialism is nearer to anarcho communism than those far right wingers.

                The argument in the source, as I understand it, is that democratic socialism doesn’t firmly oppose fascism with force, so tacitly allows it to develop.

                Also you want me to prove I’m Brazilian!? How am I supposed to do that?

                Naw, I just thought it was funny to write. You’re welcome to ignore that.

                You still haven’t sourced your claims on the DPRK, though.

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                  The most important claim I think he made was that north koreans are starving.

                  Why are they wasting so much money on their military if they can’t feed their population? Who are they even fighting?

                  Why does Kim’s family still get to live a lavish lifestyle?

                  All these things make it a shitty place to be, regardless of how it’s governed.

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                    The most important claim I think he made was that north koreans are starving.

                    Source?

                    Who are they even fighting?

                    They are still at war. The U$ occupies half the peninsula.

                    Why does Kim’s family still get to live a lavish lifestyle?

                    Who says he is?

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          NK would be better off if they didn’t waste so many resources on their nuclear program and ‘important’ families.

          Blaming sanctions doesn’t really make sense when NK clearly isn’t trying to solve the problem themselves. They’re trying to hold the world hostage.

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            The nuclear weapons are the only thing stopping the U$ from murdering 20% of their population and razing 80% of their buildings. Again.

            The sanctions are meant to torture the civilians. It’s siege warfare.

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              No they aren’t. The US isn’t invading North Korea because they have no reason to.

              It would just be a mindless slaughter with no real gain.

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                Please read about the Korean War and the US’s fascist pursuit against Communist/Socialist countries. The US has specific policies about stamping out Communism, with devastating consequences for those countries.

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                  Please tell me specifically what you think I should know and add sources if you can find them.

                  Saying “just look it up bro” isn’t conducive to discussion and just tells me you’re not confident in your argument.

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                    I just watched this documentary by a Korean American where you can find some information about it in the context of Korea. He interviews a South Korean lawyer who specializes in the legal defense on North Koreans, as well as a couple North Korean now living in the south.

                    You can also watch this video that talks more widely about the red scare and military actions against socialist countries. There are sources in the video description if you are interested.

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                The U$ still militarily occupies Korea.

                It would just be a mindless slaughter with no real gain.

                That’s not guaranteed. The U$ did not win the Korean war.

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      I thought even with sanctions NK would have access to the resources they need for a better life… if they didn’t waste so many resources on nukes.