Thousands of purveyors of neo-Nazi tunes just had their day ruined by a crew of enterprising Scandinavian anti-fascists.

  • PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Music is an extremely important part of my life but there isn’t a single band that would make me give money to neo-nazis.

    I don’t know why everyone is so eager to absolve them. If they have something to say in their defense, they can say it themselves.

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      1 year ago

      I like folk music and industrial music. The overlap of the two seems to also have a disproportionate overlap of … what’s the best way to put it?… fascist-adjacent music. Imagery, themes, etc.

      Am I a fascist? No.

      Are the artists fascist? I don’t know, Boyd Rice sure has had some controversies about him, but he’s not been banned from streaming services. But In some ways I don’t care, I don’t have the time to unpick every lyric, image and interview from the artists I listen to, to make a decision on their political views. I just like the music. Open a public playlist and listen.

      None of the music I listen to appears to be sold on Midgard. But does that mean they’re not fascist?

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        1 year ago

        You don’t need to be a fascist to make excuses for fascists, but it’s bizarre that you read my comment about all the apologists the decided “he just hasn’t heard my brilliant apologise yet”.

        You can drop the “it could happen to you” act because it almost certainly won’t. For this site and those albums, “I just didn’t have time to unpick what the lyric ‘until every kike is dead’ meant” isn’t even a remotely plausible excuse.

        Stop defending them.

    • RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Because Neo-Nazis listening to Neo-Nazi music isn’t the same as people listening to Neo-Nazi music. I’ve listened to songs with suicidal lyrics, I’m not suicidal. I’ve listened to songs about heartbreak, I’m not really that torn up about my relationship right now.

      I’m not trying to absolve them I’m trying to shake some sense into the people on an emotional crusade that are supporting doxxing because it’s against people they don’t like. It’s getting exhausting seeing people become increasingly unhinged and justifying it because “well, they’re baddies.”

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        1 year ago

        No. There’s no plausible deniability here. These bands’ whole gimmick is that they’re Nazis. It’s not some catchy tune you randomly heard on the radio. There is nothing subtle about it. It’s racist songs with racist lyrics. You would have to seek it out to listen to this garbage.

        • RealFknNito@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Again, a lot of the people listed here are from Japan. I don’t know the lyrics to a lot of Japanese songs but you’re saying everyone from Japan who listens to these are neo-nazis? As in white supremacists? Make this make sense boss.

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            1 year ago

            Well I don’t live in Japan so I’m not worried about that. Also, tons of Japanese people speak English.

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              1 year ago

              Also, can we appreciate how desperate and nonsensical that entire argument was?

              Okay, lots of them are Japanese. So… what about the ones that aren’t? Why isn’t that person concerned about the one who absolutely understand what it means?

              And secondly… it’s still a huge red flag that Japanese customers were going so far out of their way to buy extremely obscure music from racist bands from an overtly Nazi music seller. If an American specifically imported music from a Japanese shop only racists know or care about, covered in Axis power imagery, that’d still point towards being a huge racist.

              That user is seriously turning themselves in knots to defend people who buy Nazi music from the Nazi store.

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              1 year ago

              Okay but… follow the logic thread you’re weaving.

              If only neo-nazis listen to neo-nazi music, what is the likilhood that there are bilingual neo-nazi’s living in Japan?

              I’d reckon it’s not very high meaning there are probably innocent people who had their shit leaked for no good reason.

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            This might surprise you, but Japan has very close ties with fascism. Ever seen the Japanese flag with the rays coming from the center red sun? That’s the flag of Imperial Japan, a fascist terror that scarred much of Asia. Japan refuses to denounce their war crimes, and there are an unfortunate number of reactionary fascists who use the flag of Imperial Japan as a symbol they support.

            I’m absolutely not saying that every Japanese person is a fascist, not even close. I am, however, saying that I’m fairly confident that these particular Japanese fans are aware of the Nazi ideology of the bands they listen to, and listen precisely because of that.

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        1 year ago

        I’ve listened to songs with suicidal lyrics, I’m not suicidal

        A song with “suicidal lyrics” is not even remotely comparable to the albums this site sells, which is why they don’t need a dedicated pro-suicide website to sell them on.

        Would you rush to defend an album put out by ISIS, that pushed the agenda of ISIS, with all profits going to ISIS?

        It’s getting exhausting seeing people become increasingly unhinged and justifying it because “well, they’re baddies.”

        Then maybe you should explain your exhaustion to the group responsible for their overwhelming majority of mass shootings, who openly celebrate the killing of black and LGBT+ people, rather than someone you’ve decided isn’t appropriately sad that neo-nazis got exposed for doing a thing they did.