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I’d be really interested to see the results of response time testing on drives that long. You might be highly anomalous but most people begin to suffer significant attention and reaction penalties after around an hour that get steadily worse.
I know that when I try do multitask testing (a significant part of driving) after 2 hours of continuous driving my results are like 50% of freshly rested. I’d be surprised if you were anywhere capable of navigating an emergency reliably after 4 hours.
🤔 most of us in my family LOVE driving. Usually when we even needed to think/decompress or just have fun we would hop in a car and just drive. So I’m definitely more in a minority on that front. I suspect we’re just “drivers” compared to others. I just think more people can go more than 250 miles without stopping. It probably also helps that 3 of 4 of us have some level of adhd (medical diag). I think for us driving gives our monkey brain something to do. Like meditation, but worse for the environment. 😅
You really should try testing yourself though. You might be endangering your own and other people’s lives.
Try some stuff like memory, attention, and dual n back before and after (make sure to train for a bit and discard those results to avoid training effects)
I can assure you whatever test you want I could pass with flying colors and beyond, and so could most most drivers. That said, my car also drives itself on the highway for the most part and gives me a massage while I’m driving. So I sort of have an additional cheat code for driving. Even still my previous car for daily use was a manual Evo X and I took that all over the PNW and drove it fine for hours on end. Driving is taxing, but most people can usually go about 4-6 hours of constant driving, especially if you have someone in the car to talk with.
Don’t be an arse that isn’t how risk works. You can claim you perform perfectly well driving for a long time with distractions but evidence suggests it has a significant cost.
you might be a freak, some people are there are people who can calculate primes in their head or recall with near perfect accuracy, but the odds are stacked against you.
Unless you’ve actually tested yourself you should probably proceed under the assumption that driving for more than a couple of hours without a break begins to get dangerously risky. Middle of a salt flat in woop woop? who cares. Elsewhere? Maybe pull over and spend 3 minutes doing jumping jacks or something.
Their comments jump all over the place. Their partner hates it, they have a self-driving car etc. Completely rationalising driving tired and proud of it. Worst kind of driver.
I’m willing to believe some people are vastly superior drivers to me, I’m also willing to believe I’m more cautious than ethics demands.
Even so, suppose you are the greatest driver to ever exist. If after 4 hours on the road you’re at 70% of your skill, even if that skill is still really high, isn’t it worth a 10 minute break to get back to like 90%?
It’s not like taking a break is terribly unpleasant. Unless the weather is dreadful just have a cup of tea from a thermos and a stretch then hop back on the road.
My wife doesn’t hate it; just took a while to adjust to it. I don’t rationalize being tired and driving because I don’t do it. When I’ve been actually tired from driving I pull over at a rest stop and stretch or sleep. It’s ok though, I’m sure my 15 years of perfect driving (about 20k miles a year) without even being pulled over or ticketed means I’m a shitty driver.
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Evidence suggests lots of things. There’s always outliers and people who have different skill sets for different things. That doesn’t invalidate the data and certainly I agree that many people are shitty at driving. The original comment was about people only going 250 miles and needing to rest, which I don’t find true.
I drove the salt flats. As I got tired my wife and switched driving since the scenery was so… flat. Usually the mountainous driving I do keeps me awake since I need to be actively paying attention or I’d die.
I’d be really interested to see the results of response time testing on drives that long. You might be highly anomalous but most people begin to suffer significant attention and reaction penalties after around an hour that get steadily worse.
I know that when I try do multitask testing (a significant part of driving) after 2 hours of continuous driving my results are like 50% of freshly rested. I’d be surprised if you were anywhere capable of navigating an emergency reliably after 4 hours.
🤔 most of us in my family LOVE driving. Usually when we even needed to think/decompress or just have fun we would hop in a car and just drive. So I’m definitely more in a minority on that front. I suspect we’re just “drivers” compared to others. I just think more people can go more than 250 miles without stopping. It probably also helps that 3 of 4 of us have some level of adhd (medical diag). I think for us driving gives our monkey brain something to do. Like meditation, but worse for the environment. 😅
You really should try testing yourself though. You might be endangering your own and other people’s lives.
Try some stuff like memory, attention, and dual n back before and after (make sure to train for a bit and discard those results to avoid training effects)
I can assure you whatever test you want I could pass with flying colors and beyond, and so could most most drivers. That said, my car also drives itself on the highway for the most part and gives me a massage while I’m driving. So I sort of have an additional cheat code for driving. Even still my previous car for daily use was a manual Evo X and I took that all over the PNW and drove it fine for hours on end. Driving is taxing, but most people can usually go about 4-6 hours of constant driving, especially if you have someone in the car to talk with.
talking while driving is actually quite bad:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0018720817748145
That would explain all the people I’ve definitely hit on the road.
Don’t be an arse that isn’t how risk works. You can claim you perform perfectly well driving for a long time with distractions but evidence suggests it has a significant cost.
you might be a freak, some people are there are people who can calculate primes in their head or recall with near perfect accuracy, but the odds are stacked against you.
Unless you’ve actually tested yourself you should probably proceed under the assumption that driving for more than a couple of hours without a break begins to get dangerously risky. Middle of a salt flat in woop woop? who cares. Elsewhere? Maybe pull over and spend 3 minutes doing jumping jacks or something.
Their comments jump all over the place. Their partner hates it, they have a self-driving car etc. Completely rationalising driving tired and proud of it. Worst kind of driver.
I’m willing to believe some people are vastly superior drivers to me, I’m also willing to believe I’m more cautious than ethics demands.
Even so, suppose you are the greatest driver to ever exist. If after 4 hours on the road you’re at 70% of your skill, even if that skill is still really high, isn’t it worth a 10 minute break to get back to like 90%?
It’s not like taking a break is terribly unpleasant. Unless the weather is dreadful just have a cup of tea from a thermos and a stretch then hop back on the road.
My wife doesn’t hate it; just took a while to adjust to it. I don’t rationalize being tired and driving because I don’t do it. When I’ve been actually tired from driving I pull over at a rest stop and stretch or sleep. It’s ok though, I’m sure my 15 years of perfect driving (about 20k miles a year) without even being pulled over or ticketed means I’m a shitty driver. 👉(👁 ͜ʖ👁)👉
Evidence suggests lots of things. There’s always outliers and people who have different skill sets for different things. That doesn’t invalidate the data and certainly I agree that many people are shitty at driving. The original comment was about people only going 250 miles and needing to rest, which I don’t find true. I drove the salt flats. As I got tired my wife and switched driving since the scenery was so… flat. Usually the mountainous driving I do keeps me awake since I need to be actively paying attention or I’d die.
This isn’t really about skill though. It’s about mental exhaustion and what that means when it comes to safety.