• Tavarin@lemmy.ca
    22·
    1 year ago

    the more I’ve learned about the fact that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all used to get along

    The crusades would like a word.

    • Rambi@lemm.ee
      4·
      1 year ago

      I mean there’s a good 600-700 years of stuff that was happening from the end of the crusades to the late 1940s

      • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
        1·
        1 year ago

        You mean the time when the area was controlled by the Ottoman Empire, which enforced stability on it?

        I do agree, if we put the whole area under a single Empire’s influence again it would likely be a lot more stable.

        • Rambi@lemm.ee
          1·
          1 year ago

          I don’t think any sort of one state solution that would exist between the two countries would classify as an empire, and “enforced stability” is a funny way to try to make people not killing each other sound bad. Also if you want to talk about enforced, that word seems perfectly applicable to Israel’s relationship with Palestine now.

    • livus@kbin.social
      2·
      1 year ago

      @Tavarin the Crusades originated in Europe though. It wasn’t the locals infighting, more like warmongering tourists.

        • livus@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          @Tavarin I don’t think it really was. That’s what the Pope wanted people to think at the time, but historians have other explanations.

          The early Crusaders attacked other Christians as well as Jewish settlements and Muslims.

          • Tavarin@lemmy.ca
            1·
            1 year ago

            During the crusades the region was controlled by the Abbasid Caliphate, and ruled as a Muslim land. The only reason the Christians, Jew, and Muslims “got along” there was due to being under the rule of a single and powerful empire. It wasn’t like the Middle East of the time was separate kingdoms who got along, it was controlled by empires for almost all of its history.