Independence from fascist demands is possibly the best reason to temporarily hurt your economy. It’s chopping off a gangrenous finger to save your arm.

You pay enough to the right therapist you could probably snort cocaine out of their asshole. Student loans are no joke.

If you think that’s amazing there was this guy in the mid 1800s that was a penpal of president Lincoln that predicted the hell we currently live in.

Mbfc is funded and run by Nazis. You’re defending a Nazi site. I personally wouldn’t call you a Nazi over doing so in ignorance, but others might.

You’re right, defending Nazi sites doesn’t make you friends, you’re wrong that there’s any peer review of the site though, either way.

Man I hope this is satire. It has to be satire.

It actually does. But don’t worry, pick any stat you associate with freedom. The US will rank below 40 compared to other nations, it will rank below 100 in many categories.

Nz being an ally of the US is a hold over from your imperialist colonialist past, nothing more. You’ve advanced beyond the US, as have a lot of nations. The only thing the US has over you is GDP, a stat not useful for much according to the inventor of GDP, and military spending.

Given what it uses that spending for I get why you’d be scared, being an island nation in the Pacific and all; but realistically they’re not competent enough to invade you anymore. I mean they’ve lost every war they started since WWII.

Hopefully none of the above, besides your current pm you guys seem to be on an okay track. You’re already decades ahead of the US in most development stats and you couldn’t be more opposed to us ideology.

That’s really not the case, and no, the US is not the’ free world’

Every US citizen has fewer and less rights than you do, assuming you’re in nz. They also have more prisoners per capita than every single authoritarian regime in history, including Nazi Germany during its peak Holocaust era. It’s not a free country, it’s authoritarian at its core.

Imagine defending the country that has invaded more countries than any other country currently on earth.

‘comrade’ seems to make it a dig at communism or sharing economies in general.

Libs can only pretend to support one minority group at a time, and the gays didn’t help them get elected this time 'round.

Oh you sweet summer child, you still don’t pay attention to actions instead of words? Gitmo can be closed by executive order, and can be emptied by executive order. Obama didn’t close it, didn’t even try. He could’ve done it day one, or at least not interred new prisoners… But gitmo hit max capacity and stayed there under his term.

As far as abu graihb, it’s existence was explicitly allowed due to Dems. It wasn’t a rogue executive, it was explicitly allowed under the patriot act. Along with the hundreds of other black sites across the world where civilians were held and tortured without charge in the name of us national security.

And back to lgbtq, the group Dems actively hated on the federal level until scotus used a loophole to legalize gay marriage and it became profitable for companies to market to that demo. No, of course they don’t deserve to die, but the smart ones already have a second citizenship and jumped ship in the Clinton era when Congress was debating whether to make sodomy a federal crime. The real smart ones are still in the closet given the US governments continued hostility towards minorities.

But for those either too brave for too stupid to meta game that deeply, I sincerely hope they head to Canada and try to catch a boat to the EU as soon as possible. But my advice for them hasn’t changed in thirty years so maybe you aren’t going to count that sincerely as you seem to think the US was ever safe for non white non cis non straight non men.

It’s worked for all of human history and works today all over the world. If your family aren’t monsters you’ve not only experienced it but actively participated in it and if you’re not a sociopath you should be doing it right now with your neighbors given that’s how neighborhoods function.

The same place they are now… They built e.g. Guantanamo or abu ghaib… Oh right libs don’t consider mena people as people so the hundreds camps to concentrate uncharged and unconvicted ’ terrorists’, some of whom were American citizens, don’t count. and neither do the camps at the border built under Obama count.

That’s not how communal ownership works.

So Obama isn’t liberal now? Neither is Biden or Clinton? Neither are the dem members on Congress that happily, gleefully voted for the patriot act written by Biden?

It’s what you voted for and what your elected leaders did. You people keep saying intent doesn’t matter.

You guys built the camps, you’re mad that now you’ll also be targeted. Too bad so sad hope you don’t build camps next time.

Nope, the US is behind most global issues. The massive interference they do, daily, to the global South has hampered growth and democracy across the world.

It has been the single most evil force in world history. More colonial than the UK, more slaves than the entirety of Europe combined, and more imperial military outposts than peak roman empire. And that’s without mention the tens of thousands of assassinations and regime changes.

I mean it got so bad the US invented its own enemies wholesale like the current Iranian regime and the taliban.