You’re on beehaw right now, and this is definitely not being nice. There’s literally no reason that you needed to post this at all. You’re also on beehaw tech so if you dislike it here so much you might want to fix that. I actually spoke with you the other day so it’s pretty wild that you’re saying this now. You know, instead of being rude there is a block button, right? Do better.
I bounce back and forth between Apple reminders and Notion.
I guess it depends on who you are and what is being said, there’s a lot of people I might block ahead of time just to spare myself the issues down the road or the frustration. I try to not reply to them though because they aren’t going to change their mind and I’m going to be left feeling crummy after it all. Sometimes talking to certain people even makes them more angry and then they go out and double down and go after other people so I don’t want to cause that either if I can help it.
The block button doesn’t have a set of rules and there is no morally right or wrong way to use it. No one owes people explanations for their use of it. This new idea that you should only use it for specific reasons is not only absurd, but it is unsafe for a large swath of people and it is a toxic idea to keep spreading that as a message. It hurts no one to use the block button and keeps many people safe.
I’m curious why you feel the need to constantly chime in as much as possible to prove that lemmy.world is totally safe and wonderful. It speaks for itself that it is not. Why badger and harass people further to sell this? You made your point, when is enough enough? We deserve to have discourse without this being shoved down our throats. At one point lemmy.world claimed it wanted to be the biggest instance be damned the consequences, which included opening the floodgates and allowing anyone to join freely, and that invites all kinds of people in that aren’t going to act in good faith, trolls, etc…
Now all of the sudden the message is apparently different and there is a huge problem for you all when people in a separate space so much as try to have a discussion about their experiences. That doesn’t sit right with me. There are so many users on there who regularly attack beehaw for no reason, unprovoked and nothing is done about that either.
There’s still comments up about the defederation in regards to how lemmy.world users feel about beehaw: “Hopefully beehaw dies off quickly.” “Yeah, the level of entitlement is insane.” “It’s quite literally free-loading off other instances though. Not just in the content sense, but also the actual monetary cost of the image hosting, etc.”
These are just 3 examples. Glossing over all of these issues and trying to paint everything in a good light is just totally dishonest and absurd.
This and your other comments are exactly my point. I was bombarded every time I commented and the attitude over there is terrible. You people can keep ignoring this stuff all you want and excusing it away, but my experience was so bad I almost quit lemmy all together and I’m not alone. That place is toxic and the harassment is out of control. When you tolerate intolerance no matter how much you claim you don’t, things get bad really fast. Even to the point to come in here where people are just sharing their experiences to try and shove it down our throats that you aren’t what we claim, and this excuse and that excuse, and to invalidate us in a safe space proves my point. Also if you were truly accepting of Beehaw defederating why would you even come here to stir the pot so much? You wouldn’t. You’d respect it and leave us alone. It’s ridiculous. This isn’t a good look and really drives the point home on why I found another space. This just absolutely proves to me that I want nothing to do with lemmy.world ever again if I can help it. I don’t care if other people disagree with me or if they like lemmy.world, or even have a totally different experience from me, that’s fine, but I should be able to leave that place and share my experience and thoughts safely without being harassed by it further. Just totally unacceptable. I purposefully left and the fact that I have to argue my position with someone from there somewhere totally different is absolutely wild.
I’m just finding the more comments there are especially again on lemmy.world, the more bad stuff there is which I suppose may vary from person to person. Not to invalidate your experience, but again it’s interesting to see even in this thread how many folks share my experience with having a very negative time on there. If the whole tone of the place is that they are the best and they purposefully also attack other instances I’m not sure many places will even want to deal with that either. No matter the case it will be interesting to see how all of this goes over time.
Sorry - I didn’t mean to imply that you were jumping on me, it was just what you said reminded me of that happening with others on lemmy.world is all.
This is interesting because this kept happening on lemmy.world to me too. People would deny seeing things that were easily available to find in abundance. I mean great if you’re avoiding those things but it seems like a lot of us have had the same issue. It’s extremely frustrating when people then jump on you for making things up and demanding screenshots or links because lemmy.world is so perfect and so much better than everything else and those aren’t my words.
100% yes. This is a great way to describe it all. I also keep seeing people complaining about slow growth but at what cost do they want faster growth? Memes that are just disgusting? Racism? Transphobia? That’s what you get a lot of times (not always) with a fast growing community especially with the lack of mod tools from what I have understood. There’s no connecting in those spaces just a lot of fighting for no reasons and enforcement of rules is lackluster at best.
I agree with this too. I also think if people don’t like how beehaw is there’s a ton of other options but not many like this. It’s nice to have a safer space to chill and browse without all the nonsense.
Stay defederated. lemmy.world is just hot garbage imo. They were sitting there bashing beehaw and accusing beehaw of being freeloaders for defederating, hating on beehaw which they do all the time anyway, and generally are incredibly rude, transphobic, and fascist. I had an awful time on there and it was the first place I checked out coming from reddit too. Just truly a bad time overall. You’d swear some of the most toxic redditors went there. Oh and lastly, they have this thing that is super bizarre but they seem to think they are the best instance and are better than everyone else and that kind of attitude stinks and seems to greatly clash with the idea of beehaw itself.
I guessed things were scams that were not and I got “trusting tabby” which made no sense. How am I trusting if I thought they were scams and knew safer ways to handle those things? This article seems set up extremely poorly and without more context to some of the questions, they are impossible to answer.
That’s funny because I haven’t touched one of their cards in a while since 3 in a row failed on me.
It’s nice to see someone questioning these things and not ignoring the fact that you’d still have to use the platform even for self hosting. There’s been a lot of mastodon instances of people acting in bad faith, there was even someone who had the FBI take their hard drive with everyone’s posts on it. This isn’t inherently safer at all it’s just not run by those large corporations. What about hosting something where people in other countries have different laws? No one seems to talk about that much either. Also the guy who made mastodon wants to partner with Meta anyway and people are arguing in favor of that. What was the point? On lemmy, are the posts truly deleted if you can recover them or if there is a backlog of comments and changes sitting somewhere? This isn’t for people who care about privacy and it’s not discussed enough and oftentimes when it is it seems the person or people get piled on and it goes nowhere.
I simply said in response to someone else that was frustrated about this sort of content in the technology instances, that I agreed this particular article doesn’t belong here. As for what you said, it seems you are pulling meaning out of thin air and trying to apply it to me in bad faith which I do not appreciate so I will not be answering those things. You can certainly see other comments that seem to agree with that stance, as well as this being a junk/clickbait article so maybe you could ask them instead.
Okay I think I get it this time, thank you for taking the time to clarify that :)
This isn’t tech to begin with that’s probably why. It’s politics. Whoever posted this should have it removed for posting in the wrong place.
Ahh I see. Thank you for the clarification on that.
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