Want to see the direct consequences of unfettered hate masquerading as free speech? That would be Elon Musk, Nigel Farage et al spreading utterly incorrect rumours about migrants in the UK and goading right-wingers to set fire to hotels where migrant families are staying. Luckily no one was killed but do you think tutting and calling them idiots before you move on is going to change a thing?
Mate, I was simply extending an analogy you introduced. I neither know (nor care) what the presence of a McDonalds does or doesn’t do so don’t Sagan me. Nor am I claiming mainstream social media is all arseholes. What I’m saying is that mainstream social media most certainly has the ability and propensity to make people into arseholes due to constant enshittification - part of which is the influencer phenomenon in my opinion and the need for growth at all costs.
I most definitely have reached out to lots of good people on the fediverse and had lots of great exchanges that follow both professional and ‘hobby’ based interests I have.
But here’s the thing - you want growth? OK. I also have no issue with growth. But the best sort of growth in my experience comes organically. It happens at its own pace. The minute you start prodding it along with managed algorithms and all the other stuff mainstream social media now has you end up with an extended hate room. I don’t miss Reddit or Xitter at all. I genuinely mean that. No more ‘suggestions’ of people to follow, no more manufactured outrage getting pushed to my feed, no more clickbait. Instead what I have now is a curated feed across multiple different types of experiences that I spent some time getting how I want them and dipping in and out of when I want to.
You’re using words like ‘ambition’ and ‘irrelevant’ like the Fediverse is some sort of corporate entity. It’s not - that’s a point very much in its favour in the opinion of quite a lot of people on it. Contrary to your opinion that no one cares, lots do. What some of us don’t care about is catering to a set of people who are paid to express opinions and who, it seems to me, over a period of time end up becoming Andrew Tate or Russel Brand.
There’s no McDonalds in the town I currently live in, which is 20 minutes away from one of the largest cities in the country. It might come as a massive shock to you but I - and I think the majority of people - can survive just fine without a Mickey D’s. Not having one doesn’t make a place desolate, it makes it healthier. And if someone really wants a Big Mac, they can go and get one from elsewhere.
Do you see what I’m saying? This isn’t the same place as that - it’s quite nice to have a place online that still isn’t. And for those that do want that, they can still spend time there if they chose to.
Strangely comforting for something I’m sure you thought was a snappy comeback,
I genuinely don’t care about influencers. Like, at all.
Maybe they should stop caring about visibility and engagement and concentrate on participating in, building and y’know enjoying a community?
The idea that Sunak has any sort of political weight is fucking hilarious.
As it absolutely should be. Everyone knows its nothing to do with talking to their god and everything to do with intimidating people.
And if the christians object ask them why they’re suddenly concerned that prayers only work within 150m of the person they’re praying ‘for’.
Not yet, but they’re certainly in our thinking for next year :)
This is great news :) but without wanting to be spammy the org I am a member of [email protected] have been running a very similar campaign but for non-mainstream music e.g. metal/punk/indie/alt/industrial/goth that we call “Satan Not Hatin’”
It currently has over 140 opt-in participants of bands, individual artists, venues, festivals, record labels and other orgs from all over the world, including the UK and has been so successful that a well known (within metal circles) documentarian and music video director is currently making a Documentary about the campaign. You can visit the campaign website where we list all the participants and provide more detail - there’s also a link to a YouTube playlist of all the participating bands which also works fine in Invidious!
I have contacted the Graun about Satan Not Hatin’ but mainstream news has little love for alternative music so we’ll carry on with our DIY approach!
Whereas the true insanity is to let people get away with openly inciting race hate which leads to life threatening real-world consequences for the people on the receiving end of the lies.
Absolute free speech is the refuge of those without the common sense and maturity to realise it has led to deaths. It is entirely appropriate to legislate for those who want, or encourage, life threatening harm to come to others.
It’s entirely plausible. I’m positive they have the ego and lack of perception for it but I think it’s simpler than that - they’re just stupid.
As an old fart myself (but not officially a boomer, too young for that), I’m dismayed at the amount of young people swallowing this reactionary crap. Do young men really think that part of being a man is trafficking humans and behaving like louts in other countries?
“Being more than twice as unpopular as Jacob Rees-Mogg takes some doing, frankly.”
Gold. Pure gold.
Her being allowed to join Labour says just as much about them as it does the Tories. Labour being seen as a safe haven for very far right Tories is not a good look.
The latter is very much the case.
If I understand this proposal they’re not making smoking illegal for those born after 2009, just the purchase of tobacco products. As such, I can’t really see what this is going to achieve.
Why on earth are we still paying attention to this idiot and treating her opinions as if they are worthy of consideration?
Top of The Pops has a Masto account?
It’s not an ‘either/or’ situation - both sets of people are culpable.