5 hours later… Nope. SpaceCowboy probably just rolled their eyes and continued jerking off to 15,000 dead children thinking it’s a smaller number than 12.

Why? Everything’s going according to plan.

Don’t worry, Israel is going to sacrifice the red cow this month - https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-west-bank-settlers-red-cows-third-temple Israel’s crazy death cult religion wants to bring about the end of the world with fire to cleanse the world during rapture, so your sick-fuck wish might come true.

EDIT - https://allisrael.com/blog/what-do-five-red-heifers-have-to-do-with-the-oct-7-massacre <- Israeli source in case you think this is some anti-semetic hogwash, it’s not. They just omit in the article the slaughtering of the cow as part of the ritual.

I respect the effort. I feel like these conversations are many drops but are creating a collective tidal wave, I just find the concept of defending mass murder over learning something new is such an alien concept to me like I can’t have conversations with people who are so bad faith, like, to a point where its homicidal. It’s scary.

I thought it was just bots on reddit saying this Hasbara pro-IDF Nazi-esque genocide justification but there are actually people everywhere thinking like this. We truly live in dark times. IDF are engineering something worse than fuckin Leningrad in WW2, and there are soooo many people openly defending it, I can’t believe people can be so simultaneously heartless and brainless just KILL KILL KILL. It’s like a nightmare I can’t wake up from.

This guy has been spouting genocide justification in other threads as well, they’re a lost cause. They’ve written essays about how all Palestinians are Hamas and should all be wiped out, denying that starvation is even happening, etc. Good luck trying to save this one!

Well said.

Dude anyone defending Israel at this point is devoid of humanity. This guy literally shrugs off aide workers being murdered with precision strikes, let alone thousands of innocent deaths. They’ve demonstrated their belief that 1,500 Israeli lives are significantly more important than 32,000+ Palestinians. “They’re killing less every day” lie as if it’s a good thing, makes me sick. The amount of time they take to write out their long-winded comments excusing mass murder is fucking shocking, and I can’t believe people like them actually exist. Israel could nuke New York, say it was Hamas, and this brainwashed idiot would believe it even if their own family was killed in that strike.

Where is the proof that there are thousands of UNRWA employees that helped Oct 7th happen? I tried looking it up and couldn’t find anything.

“Many of us like to ask ourselves, ‘What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow South? Or apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing genocide?’ The answer is, you’re doing it. Right now.” - Aaron Bushnell

RIP

There’s one of an IDF soldier proposing to another, with romantic music and fellow soldiers applauding, on top of the rubble of a school they blew up. It’s cartoonishly evil, and it couldn’t be even more cartoonishly evil unless they did something ridiculous like bomb Bethlehem, the birthplace of Jesus Christ, on Christmas day. I mean, that would be insane on so many levels if they did that, right? Yeah well, they did - https://www.livemint.com/news/world/israeli-forces-strike-bethlehem-on-christmas-day-amid-raids-across-occupied-west-bank-11703498336126.html

Same as it ever was.

Only since around 600BC when coin turned money from a quantitive measurement of debt into a protection racket against soldiers, mercenaries and thugs (military colonialism wouldn’t be possible without this redefinition of money). Yeah, there were always societies with ruthless hierarchies, but they weren’t the norm. Yeah, there was always inequality in wealth or physical ability, but wealth wasn’t always used to lord over and deprive from eachother. The norm for most of humanities 200,000+ years were societies of cooperation, a colourful carnival of experimental politics of the likes we couldn’t even dream of nowadays. Ruthless and brutal hierarchies famously collapse because communities actively decided to abandon them, move elsewhere, and create something new and better. Human history is marked by stories of societies who reject arbitrary authorities, the ability to go elsewhere, and most of all have the expectation that wherever they go they’ll be cared for. None of these freedoms exist anymore, so the question is how and why did we lose these freedoms? And who benefits from these losses of freedoms? After accepting that society is what we make of it, defined by rules on how to live amongst one another in a bottom->up direction, then why are we so eager to blindly accept arbitrary authority, stay put, and fear our neighbors?

How?

The only two candidates available want to help Israel, Biden and even more so Trump. If you’re hoping that some sort of legislation, protest, or representative will push for removing aid to Israel then I want what you’re smoking. The world will scream and shout while Israel/US does the genocide anyway, and we’ll add it to the long list of war crimes committed that we do nothing about except whine and complain.

In a democracy you have to be a player, crying into the void of the internet isn’t going to do anything. I would give my suggestions about what needs to be done, but then my comment will surely be removed by a mod. The problem is I don’t see any other solution, except hang on and let time itself deal with them.

What’s your point? That we should just accept that as “business as usual”?

Clearly you missed all the female IDF soldiers thirst-posting on Tik Tok dancing on the rubble of destroyed homes and schools.

And we will keep allowing oligarchical tyrants like Putin to rob us and slaughter our heroes and communities. If we were better people we would’ve put a stop to this already, but the framers know we’re pathetic, which is why fascism will take over the world. For too many decades now I’ve seen movements, protests, demonstrations, voting, all these ways fail us time and time again, only making things slip into worse and worse situations. We need to stop playing the game by their rules, but we can’t even agree with eachother in Lemmy comment threads let alone organize to do anything that matters.

Why is violence the only other option? Your words, not mine. We could picket and protest outside their homes and gated communities, we could strike, we could organize a boycott. Or is the reason you suggest violence, because deep down, you realize that’s what it might take?

I got my account a while ago but only started using it recently, and this happened to be the first thing I’ve felt strongly enough to comment about. What are you insinuating? What’s so curious about it?

My point is that I do vote, I have campaigned, I have canvassed, I have phone banked, I have fundraised. Did it for Obama when I was 18, and the so-called “change” never came. I did it for Bernie, even phone banked from overseas, and we all know what happened there. I even tried tackling corporate irresponsibility head on by working for Greenpeace, fundraised and raised awareness, attended protests, helped people send letters to their reps, the whole nine yards. Took all this for me to realize the problems go beyond the purely symbolic particapatory act of “voting”, a piece of paper in a ballot box is simply not enough. Our democracy is going to have to be fought for, that’s what i’m insinuating, if that’s sates any of your curiosity.

What can be done about it? Clearly voting doesn’t work, it got us here in the first place.