Each popularity-contest host is identified by a random 128bit uuid (MY_HOSTID in /etc/popularity-contest.conf). This uuid is used to track submissions issued by the same host. It should be kept secret.

Oh, and by default, IP, unless usetor is enabled

A machine I’d is just a hash too

Can you explain to me how you track Mac address, serial numbers over the internet.

Just fyi, the backend project I made 20 years ago was hardware related. There’s potential reasons to grab this info…

But, if it is a concern, I’m sure they’d welcome submissions to improve the parsing and allow things to be filtered.

In fact, popcon could be used for digital fingerprinting technically

In all likelihood, op never spoke to the manjaro developers either

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Don’t like it, don’t opt in

Even Debian has popcon

There are lots of benefits for developers to gather telemetry.

Don’t like that? Fork and do your own distro (presumably though you don’t contribute anything to open source, so id expect such people to simply whine and get angry at contributors)

I’d say the ones who have been saying it’s not real should be the first to become soylent green

I don’t see the point. It’s like twitter. Never saw the point of that either instead of lemmy or Reddit honestly

Hopefully we get DP over USBC soon on the m2 Mac studios

Yeah… Please can he do the same here in Australia

Jokes on them. Facebook in Australia is an absolute cesspool.

And nobody from Facebook is doing anything with the reports

So, the only application for this data is to build a bot which acts like an asshole and make photos of cars which assholes own.

Lots of people seem to be using it fine daily

Maybe you need to switch distro and check your hardware

Or if you’re getting lots of crashes, contribute code or money to get them addressed. Otherwise it’s clear your priorities aren’t straight

Yeah. Last thing I want is to deal with all the anti-environment, anti-EV pro-extremist right wing toxic-macho shit bots.

Quality, not quantity. With too many people, moderation begins to fail

Yes, bias is a thing. Ever hear of the placebo effect? It gives people a bias before clicking the link.

In fact, showing rankings actually makes it easier for bots because of that bias, they just randomly click stuff to appear neutral, and upvote their target posts, which when they say +1.4k, you’ll be biased into thinking it’s a popular opinion. Hence why hiding them by default actually maybe has benefits. There are no advantages to seeing the votes other than abuse. Name some.

As you said, they’re already accessible, so there is no point of bloating the code. Let’s not make them even more so and encourage abuse.

What problem is being solved here by doing this?

My implementation would be hide it from the UI by default for instances

Also, never said unranked… I meant simply hide the rankings. Part of the disadvantage of showing the totals on the UI means that high upvotes make it seem like it was highly popular. It also means that people don’t mindlessly upvote posts simply because there were a lot of upvotes. By hiding them, you know its popular, but no how popular. It changes the way people interact so it’s more normal.

Showing Upvotes/downvotes doesn’t show whether they are bots are not. It just means they’ll upvote/downvote more random shit and mess around wit the rest of the posts, so more crap rises to the top because they’re interfering with the rankings.

There are easier ways to identify bots… And, it just aids abusive people. I don’t think it will assist with bots at all… Sorry.

Problem is, it actually encourages a hive mind. I’ve already had 2 people try to bully me.

I’d go one step further. Upvotes down votes and totals should be hidden entirely. This would encourage people to post based on their own without external influence It reduces the incentive to use bots

Already had one person today mention my down votes .

It didn’t validate their argument at all and without context it can be interpreted in any fashion to make it seem malicious

In my case, I went to the biggest one after leaving beehaw.

I left beehaw because it was clear there was a double standard for one admin between minorities and the rest of us where an admin overlooked someone from a minority acting like a total ass and starting a fight… and blamed me simply because my opinion half agreed with an article that was posted.

Which was such a pity because they other admin there is awesome (and I loved the idea of the instance), but I’m worried it will become a echo chamber eventually unfortunately where you simply can’t discuss things, but only agree with people

Just to play devils advocate though… awesome people and awesome country.

I’ve always wondered if I’d rather live there and be poor honestly than live here in Australia (which is basically at least 50% redneck at this point)

They’ve also started using a lot of channel names which are totally unrelated to politics. No huge surprise of course that it’s the right wing doing stuff like this…

Pretty much. It wouldn’t surprise me if long term Elon tries to run for office too as a right wing candidate now that Trump has shown to him that you can abuse the office for unethical reasons.

As his business drops, it will increasingly become profitable for him to push for no workers rights and increasingly worse consumer rights

I love that he managed to help push EVs mainstream, but he’s now a detriment

Yep… People use Tesla as an example of EVs failing

It’s not falling because of EVs, it’s falling because the guy running it is so dodgy that consumers can’t be sure they’re not going to fuck things up in the future.

It also doesn’t help that Elon lies about things he doesn’t need to (even stupid things like calling the cave diver a pedo) and that makes potential consumers wonder what else he’s lying about.