Yes.

Not an oppressive regime at all, nuh-uh! 🙄

The pūteketeke is still the Bird of the Century, though. Can’t take that away from it for the next 99 years or however many humanity has left 😁

Since Mandela took power in 1994, there hasn’t been entirely friendly relations between SA and IS.

Weird how the government of a former freedom fighter who was imprisoned for 27 years by an Apartheid regime wouldn’t be very friendly with the friends of that Apartheid regime, another Apartheid regime!

in the firth place

Nice of Colin to lend them his garage, though 🤷

Also: what

This isn’t a trade deal they’re proposing.

It’s extortion by proxy in order to escape the consequences of a laundry list of crimes against humanity.

US clearly belongs to Israel

Close: Israel is an integral part of the Military industrial complex that owns 99% of American politicians.

Foreign interference, extortion, conspiracy to extort a third party, more libel and slander than you can shake a Trump at, persecution of dissidents both internal and external, state censorship of dissent rivaling that of China and Russia, ditto disinformation campaigns…

And that’s not even all of the (mostly) NONviolent ones.

Clearly, there’s no depths of depravity that would condemn any other country to sanctions if not “preemptive” invasions that the US won’t fucking CELEBRATE when coming from the most moral inherently genocidal apartheid regime.

Haaretz – which is basically the Israeli New York Times

You’re giving the NYT too much credit. Times of Israel is the Israeli NYT, at least when it comes to any coverage of the ongoing genocide.

Never forget the counterfactual “Screams Without Words” Hasbara smear job that they’re refusing to retract to this day.

Alright, US should just nuke them and launch full scale assault?

Holy false dichotomy, Batman! That’s one of the stupidest ones I’ve heard yet! 🤦

The fuck do you want

An INDEPENDENT investigation and for the US to stop supplying the weapons used to commit genocide and other atrocities with would be a good start.

This is non statement because they lack facts.

Says the one pretending that it’s a choice of either doing nothing or nuke and invade 🙄

Quit being so blood hungry

I’m being the OPPOSITE of blood hungry ffs! I want someone to STOP Israel from murdering with impunity!

This statement is the only one they could make.

The FUCK it was! Even with Saudi Arabia, they got angry and didn’t let the killers do their own investigation!

Maybe better if they mentioned launching their own investigation

Ya think? 🙄

which they likely are

Not likely at all, no. That’s part of the problem.

but you don’t announce you’re spying on someone…

Conducting a murder investigation isn’t spying ffs! Ever heard of international oversight?

Apparently not, since you’re pretending that it would be a crime to not let the IDF investigate themselves 🤦

Tbf, that BBC one is garbage that makes it sound like the IDF shooting was concurrent with but not necessarily the cause of her death.

The White House said it was “deeply disturbed” by the killing of a U.S. citizen and called on Israel to investigate what happened.

FUCK that! 🤬

The leadership of both parties treat the fascist apartheid regime committing genocide exactly as they treat murderous cops 🤬

In the EXTREMELY unlikely event that the Israeli court system correctly concludes that an IDF soldier murdered this woman, they’re just going to give them a fine and send them back out to murder some more!

Because it’s a tiny echo chamber not worth the effort.

Twitter, on the other hand, is still widely used by the majority of nonfascist legacy media and other people who are hugely influential and should know better.

Just a couple weeks ago, another “moderate” who DEFINITELY supports the cause was complaining about anti-genocide protesters making him late for work, saying that they need to “do it in Tel Aviv or shut up”.

And here you are, DEFINITELY supporting the cause while saying that this guy did it to himself by “stirring shit up” because he made his opposition to the atrocities heard too close to the snipers of the genocidal occupation force. In a Palestinian-owned part of the West Bank.

If I didn’t know any better, I’d think that NEITHER of you REALLY support the cause or the protesters out there representing everyone who does…

I trust journalists that have proven themselves reliable, even as that puts them directly in the crosshairs of the genocidal apartheid regime.

somehow still think you’re enlightened

Never claimed any such thing. Please stow your strawman.

Right, but you know hamas believes jews should be wiped from this earth,

That’s irrelevant. They’re not in a position where doing so is possible, and killing their only leverage against a technologically and numerically superior force is not in their interest.

The Israeli people thinking that they did, on the other hand, is VERY much in the interest of the IDF.

you know this current war began because of specific steps Hamas chose to take to attempt to make that goal a reality

Nope. Atrocious and barbaric beyond description as it was, October 7th was a political act, not a foolhardy attempt to kill all Jewish people.

Just because they’re despicable terrorists doesn’t mean that Hamas are stupid enough to think that the total eradication of all Israeli Jews, let alone all Jews worldwide, is something that is in any way possible.

And it’s not a war. It’s one of the biggest, most powerful, and most technologically advanced militaries in the history of humanity eradicating or displacing an entire people, using a tiny minority (that is nowhere near as much a threat as they pretend) as a pretense.

you know the mistreatment they have displayed towards the hostages.

Talking about Hamas or Israel? Because the only significant differences with regards to hostages is that Israel has hundreds if not thousands as many that they abuse just as horribly as Hamas does theirs.

So for you to say that there is a 99% chance that Hamas is innocent of these killings

Again ignoring the qualifier, so I’m gonna make it a little more obvious:

As long as an IDF spokesperson is the ONLY source

that’s a specific choice you are making for conspiricism.

Nope, that’s a statement of how unreliable the IDF and their spokespeople have proven themselves to be. Repeatedly leaving out that part, though? THAT’S a specific choice.

I’m not saying that I trust Hamas. For the record, I don’t.

I’m just saying that I don’t trust the IDF either, infamous as they are for being caught lying constantly.

once you get that verification, your position will not change.

False.

You have only given yourself a 1% chance of changing your stance

No. I have given a very generous 1% chance of something said ONLY by an IDF spokesperson being the unvarnished truth. The concurrence of other sources would of course dramatically increase that chance, especially if any of them are themselves very reliable.

in my opinion, that the only refuge you are offering yourself is conspiracism if and when you are proven wrong.

That’s a very weird way to guess wrong.

I suspect the conspiracy will be “Israel killed the hostages themselves”

Wouldn’t be the first time or the last. That’s not a conspiracy theory at this point, though, just what’s most likely given the past behavior of all of the factions involved 🤷

I’m reserving final judgment until people of greater reliability than the likes of Donald Trump, Baghdad Bob, or Alex Jones chime in, though.

says army spokesperson Hagari

99% chance that it’s either a complete fabrication or a distortion of the truth when an IDF spokesperson is the ONLY source. Let’s see if anyone even remotely reliable confirms the story.