Yes, but don’t go full nazi yourself. Otherwise you’re just responding to one holocaust with demands for another.
Christianity isn’t what’s pure evil, it’s extremism that is evil. That can come from any ideology, just add “kill your neighbour for making things less the way you want them to be”.
My point is that it no longer matters. You’re not living in a democracy anymore, Trump stole his position. He is an unelected dictator. The electoral process means nothing until, at the very least, he’s forced back out of power. Worst case, democracy in the US is permanently dead and my country is on his chopping block.
That being said, I’ll edit my post if I can confirm the thing about Georgia, for now I agree it’s only prudent to take what I’m saying with a grain of salt. Believing misinformation is what got us here in the first place, you’re right to call me into question.
I indeed do. Sorry about that!
You know what, you’re both idiots. The world has more important things to worry about than something that happened 24 years ago. Stop trying to justify and start trying to fix. This is not a game anymore, if it ever was.
Because the people are not the genocidal ones. They never are. If you were actually a good person who fights for the equality of minorities instead of a left-wing stealth-bigot, you’d recognize left-wing stealth bigots are no better than right-wing white supremacists.
I’m mixed race, so don’t even try to play that card. Fuck off, and never be woke again, you heartless self-centered sycophant.
As a Canadian, hard yes on this. I’m terrified of a potential invasion but I don’t hate you for being American, I’m terrified that you’ll be forced into something that will result in children being tortured to death, cities being nuked and the world entering a second cold war at best and literally collapsing at worst.
As a person whose relationship with spirituality is… strange… I can say I am honestly considering if Revelations is true, but that my opinion of it as a real event is not reverance or even hatred, but anger. Anger at god. This is not how you tell a fucking story. Characters - if you “talk” to them by writing them into a story - would not typically hate us despite the pain of their life because they would tell us they aren’t actually there. We know they aren’t real, they’re puppets.
We aren’t puppets. God has no right to predestine the end of the world, I don’t care how benevolent. And if there’s an other side rebelling, fuck them too because clearly WE were never informed by them. It’s been 2000 years, if I hadn’t literally had dreams predicting my personal future 5 years in advance that actually came true, I wouldn’t even consider it plausible. Now? I don’t owe my parents my existence, why should ANYONE owe their existence to god?
I’m not saying god never did anything for me either, clearly it - even if “it” is just my unconscious mind doing supercomputer weather predictions with my brain - warned me 5 years in advance about something that would destroy my former life. I owe it in part for everything genuinely good that ever happened to me, but that doesn’t mean divinity should come with being above scrutiny and questioning.
Hatred clouds the mind. Please, just run away. No one “won” WWII, nobody benefited from the Holocaust. Run while you still can, nobody will judge you for being the cat who gtfo before it was too late when the pigs killed the humans, took over the farm and then treated the other animals as a resource to be ground up into hamburger for their own consumption.
Yeah, Animal Farm is a twisted fucking story. It happened for real too, in the USSR. Don’t think that this can’t end up just like a story. MegaMan Battle Network came true, we have Smartphones. Watch_dogs came true, the internet is in shambles. Cyberpunk came true, we have handheld portable gaming PCs called (Steam) Decks that are capable of VR. Dreams too can apparently predict the future, but the price is that you will be a slave of the prophesy until it passes. Don’t needlessly contradict god, if it really does exist, but - provided that you yourself don’t keep other people in the dark, because otherwise it might be a sign it’s reflecting your flaws in its treatment of you - absolutely be f-ing pissed if it implies you have no rights just because it said so.
It could just be your unconscious beliefs that are “god”, or maybe there’s a real afterlife too. I say as far as human rights are concerned, it doesn’t matter which one it is. We are not toys to be played with by something that knows the future just because we only exist as limited, imperfect beings. If that “god” is our own mind’s reflection, psychologically or otherwise, fine. But if it’s not something we do to others ourselves, if you are mistreated by such an entity and you feel sick at the idea of it happening to someone else, then whether there’s a micro-god in your brain, there’s a collective unconscious, or god is literally supernatural, we should at least start considering one thing.
If we hate being told what to do so much, why do we LET bullies play with our souls? Because if the answer is out of fear, fear doesn’t protect you from danger. It only makes you aware there is danger. If you don’t believe in the supernatural, or even the idea the conscious mind is separated from the unconscious mind in a way that “god” is just a manifestation of what you believe in, all you need to consider is that people like Trump are arrogant, arrogance is clearly an evil trait, and it’s plausible that something pretending to be a god might exist and itself have arrogance. If so, the false god is a jerk. If it’s more than that, if any of the crazier claims are true, if it really is a divine being, that changes nothing except the “false” part. Even a true god does not have the right to own slaves, it’s about damn time we consider that whatever happens next happens because we’re paying attention now and analyzing everything and questioning even the ones we trust most, not because we make the mistake of thinking we can never betray our own trust…
“Trust no one. Not even yourself. People are fallible, you are fallible, especially when you think you’re invincible.”
Don’t just blindly hate. Trust your instincts, but not your memories. That’s the only thing good that came out of 2017, and I hate that that’s the case but I can’t argue that this is NOT the time for dwelling on what got us here. We need to clean up this mess, no matter what we think of each other. We can tell each other what we remember being hurt by and why it makes us want to punch each other in the face all we want AFTER we make sure this doesn’t end up like the stupid book demands.
If it’s just a story, we live no matter what we do. If it’s not, though, that’s instant death. We have a 1 in 3 chance of that dated, tribalist lore actually being able to predict the future and it being the end of the world. If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t put up with the zealots who try to force people to believe in extremist views, take note of the saying “The house always wins.” because I do not like 1 in 3 odds of “everybody suffering even more”.
You don’t have to believe it until you can prove it. You just have to recognize that probability doesn’t fall outside scientific measurement. Our eyes are the eyes of our dreams, whatever is really going on in our heads is based on our memories and I remember one thing. Inherent winners are cheaters. Doesn’t matter what the game is.
Hate makes you forget that. It makes you think you deserve to always win inherently. It’s a form of arrogance, and arrogance is a type of pridefulness. Arrogance is also illogical. The odds are that it’s better to not bet immediately after winning the jackpot. Even if the slot machine just dispensed a “jackpot” of dog shit instead of coins, what makes you think next time it will spill out money? So believe what you believe, but even if you don’t believe in fairy tales, that doesn’t mean you should have given your true name to a corporation that wants you to be a good little data-mining slave for it. Every effect has a cause, we can still stop this, but not if we blame someone just for not being on the fediverse or whatever other broad criteria you have. Even unfair wealth is not an excuse to kill rich people’s kids. Even adults murdering other adult’s kids is not an excuse for killing the first group’s kids. Even not believing the same thing as you does not make a child not innocent. Even if you think it is a choice in the first place, having strange sexual or romantic preferences is the right of a sapient being to choose.
This is the information age. Start being suspicious when someone wants you to hate a group on face value, it’s easy to look up if they’re lying through their teeth and if they’re covering it up, they’ll deflect questions with accusations.
Anyway, a bit long-winded but I needed to vent. Remember, everyone should be judged only on their own merits and actions, not what their family/friends/ethnicity/etc. may or may not have done. I’m starting to get really sick of people taking the “easy for them, unfair for someone else” route when morality asks them “Will you stand for the weak?”
You don’t understand. I don’t think there was a lack of votes. You have to lose your job to vote because your boss won’t let you get off work until after the polls close. That’s always been the case.
There is an actual cheat code built into the legal system in Georgia that almost nobody knew about; a Jim Crow law that says anyone can declare anyone else in their county ineligible to vote for any or even no reason. A law meant to be used for oppressing black people fittingly was used as a tool of oppression in last year’s election. A bunch of people each declared 32,000 people per person, across several counties - and yes the victims were mostly African-Americans - ineligible to vote. They didn’t even know WHY they were ineligible until very recently. This is literally a stolen election.
Hang in there and keep an eye on the west coast. If California votes in favor of secession, sell your house or get a loan for it as collateral, buy a motorhome with the money and go to northern California (preferrably somewhere near San Francisco). It’s super expensive (or at least it is at the time of writing, this being the place Silicon Valley is located) but, provided that California has already confirmed secession, you’ll be as far as you can get from “his” influence without leaving the Continental US.
Other options if you have no other citizenship are Hawaii, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Alaska and the Seattle area. If you can cross a border, head for Kelowna in British Columbia. I do not recommend trying to get through Texas to Mexico, there are a lot of culturally-engrained prejudices that you’re certainly familiar with that will have them questioning why a family would flee Florida “unless they’re trying to escape” and pre-emptively detain anyone traveling in a motorhome with their entire family. If possible, drive as far north as you can before turning west.
Use OsmAnd (an android GPS app that uses OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps) on a cheap phone for your navigation, toss it and your normal phone if you have a close call. If you have ANY access to leave the country for one of similar safety for ANY reason, research their current state using wikipedia. Buy your tickets for an airline now and then prepare legal resources to apply for refugee status in the country you end up in (might take several long-distance calls). Worst-case scenario, you take your chances of being deported by creating a change.org petition and hope that the recipient country understands you’re not leaving the wealthiest country on earth if shit hasn’t hit the fan (they probably will be willing to listen). All of this is legal but will also keep you out of trouble if legality is not a barrier to those currently trying to take complete power in the US. Please note, I’m not an American or a lawyer, I just have a surprising amount of life experience. Good luck.
I say “You can come, but it could be a natural death sentence; Temperatures in cities west east of the rockies get very, VERY cold and you will need to survive by living in a tent because we are out of residences.”
Unless you can build a house in the next 6 months, own a motorhome, or are on the west coast, you’re better off seeking asylum anywhere else that will take you first. I hear Japan or - if you have to - China have a few unoccupied buildings whose property values are affected by their plummeting birth rates. Look into those first, then any nations you have second citizenship in, then take your chances surviving our brutal winters (if you live in Michigan or North Dakota, you already know what kind of temperatures I’m talking about), and good luck.
No, it’s worse. I urge you to look up the Georgia law (the Jim Crow kind) that may have been used to literally TAKE tens if not hundreds of thousands of votes away by declaring - just like that - that everyone you disagree with or who looks different than you (in your county and assuming you live there, it only applies to Georgia currently) is not fit to vote.
I’m serious. They fucking planned this.
No. Not really. People were taught history. We have hindsight. Look around, nobody is saying Trump is anything less than a new Hitler. Nobody is saying Trump was elected fairly.
I’m going one step further. Trump did not win 2024. In Georgia, there is an old Jim Crow-era law that still exists. You can - if you live in Georgia right now - legally declare EVERYONE ELSE in your county inelligable to vote just by stating you view them as not fit to vote.
This was already used on 32,000 black people a pop by several people in Georgia in 2024, turning the tide of the election.
You didn’t choose Trump. Nobody except the people who have taken away a fundamental right of thousands of people chose him. They chose to destroy democracy to get what they want.
Evil is evil. It does not play by “No, I didn’t get elected, curses! I’ll get you next time, Gadg8eer!”. It plays by stealing what it cannot win fair and square.
Don’t side with evil, just recognize that this was not a bunch of zealots and bigots who did this. Trump literally found a fucking cheat code for election built into the system by people who are now either dead, senile or the last of their peers. The cheat code needs to be deactivated, and playing by the rules will get us nowhere.
Got to admit, other guy had me till you said this. Props, man, you have an honestly better point.
Problem is, this isn’t about strong or weak. This is about numbers. Too many people in the US are literally just hiding that they’re racist by being among like-minded bigots and not traveling, and then agreeing when wealthy assholes tell them their kids don’t need good education.
Fact is, this proved something. Something scary. Those who remember history cannot stop it from repeating if evil also remembers history, which is impossible to prevent entirely.
In other words, we have no guarantees. We never did. We’re fucking doomed, we always were. We are all going to die and there was never a goddamn thing anyone could do about it.
You don’t understand. You know why 1997-2001 was a period of optimism? We thought we were finally SAFE, geopolitically-speaking.
Now - in the aftermath of 9//1, 2008 and two Trump administrations, we are convinced we will NEVER be geopolitically safe.
People do not have children if they do not have a sense (even an illusion) of geopolitical safety. When people literally have geopolitical PTSD from all this, and cannot trust ANY government, ANY corporation, ANY religion, ANY ideology, when NOTHING is viewed as a way to de-stress yourself…
We have a serious problem. Expect birth rates to start plummeting ~9 months from now, because the new quote is “history repeats, even if you remember it”.