ISLAMABAD/WASHINGTON, May 8 (Reuters) - A top Chinese-made Pakistani fighter plane shot down at least two Indian military aircraft on Wednesday, two U.S. officials told Reuters, marking a major milestone for Beijing’s advanced fighter jet.

An Indian Air Force spokesperson said he had no comment when asked about the Reuters report.

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    Why would an ordinary masjid host a well known, widely despised figure like Saeed?

    Saeed? You mean Azhar?

    If it was civilian infrastructure, why was the man leading the funeral a famous terrorist, and not a local religious cleric?

    I have no idea, though I could think of a few reasons (including that the three people who would normally lead such a prayer are all dead).

    If you join LeT, you are a terrorist. Doesn’t matter if you just go there to sweep the floors.

    Yeah… no. According to Wikipedia,

    The group conducts terrorists training camps and humanitarian work. Across Pakistan, the organisation runs 16 Islamic institutions, 135 secondary schools, an ambulance service, mobile clinics, blood banks and seminaries according to the South Asia Terrorism Portal

    If everyone working in any of those activities is a terrorist, then by a similar logic all Indian government employees are affiliated with the Indian army and therefore valid military targets, “even if they’re there to sweep the floors”, because the Indian army is by far the biggest terrorist organization in Kashmir. If we reject that logic, then the three men who were killed in the strike are civilians who were affiliated with LeT’s peaceful wing. You can hate “indoctrination” all you want (if that’s indeed what they were doing); that still doesn’t make a building a valid military target. Unless you’d like Kashmiri militants to attack Kashmiri Hindu priests who advocate against separation from India.

    The camp was for the purpose of Daura-e-Sufa, Daura-e-Aam and Khas are done elsewhere.

    So for religious education with no combat purpose to speak of? That’s militant infrastructure? In that case any Indian schools are valid targets for Kashmir militants, because this logic goes both ways.

    If ISIS opened a mosque near you, and you knew it was frequented by famous ISIS members, would you go there every Friday? It’s not just a mosque, it is an LeT mosque that spreads LeT propaganda.

    Assuming the government takeover is just for show, which you haven’t provided concrete evidence for beyond speculation. that’s circular reasoning. Also, it’s entirely possible that LeT is condemned in most of Pakistan and still supported in Kashmir, especially since LeT is a lot more than a militant organization. I’d wager the people they aided in the Kashmir earthquake would be perfectly willing to go to their mosque, for example. It seems to me like you’re using excessively simplistic lines of thought to derive the conclusion you want.

    Frankly, you’re just dismissing everything as coincidences.

    Because everything you just mentioned works just as well as a coincidence as it would if your claim was correct. What you’ve outlined here, if charitably interpreted (or uncharitably depending on how you look at it) warrants a “hmm, maybe we should look into this further”, but doesn’t serve on its own as evidence that anything rocket-worthy was going on in Murikde.

    I’m sure they have far better proofs.

    Why do you trust the Indian army so much? Have you not considered the possibility that they simply don’t care, given that they’re taking orders from a known fascist?

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      *Azhar. Yes, it’s a terrorist organisation. It is a UN designated terrorist organisation. If you’re calling ‘religious education’ given to men like Ajmal Kasab (he mentioned it in his confession) then I have nothing to say to you. The Indian army doesn’t tell people to kill Hindus, it employs both Hindus and Muslims. Indian schools don’t tell us to kill Muslims, this is some delusional shite.

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        Yes, it’s a terrorist organisation

        Okay, and? There’s no label that makes everyone you stick it with okay to bomb. According to international law (and common human decency), you have to look at what that person actually does before you can decide whether they’re okay to bomb or not. To repeat myself, no terrorist organization in Kashmir is worse than the Indian government’s reign of terror.

        Indian security forces have been implicated in many reports for enforced disappearances of thousands of Kashmiris whereas the security forces deny having their information and/or custody. This is often in association with torture or extrajudicial killing. The extent of male disappearances has been so large that a new term “half-widows” has been created for their wives who end up with no information of their husbands’ whereabouts. Human right activists estimate the number of disappeared to be over eight thousand, last seen in government detention.[64][75][79] The disappeared are believed to be dumped in thousands of mass graves across Kashmir.

        -Wikipedia. There’s a reason only Indian-administered Kashmir is the site of a decades-long insurgency.

        The Indian army doesn’t tell people to kill Hindus,

        Read the article before you make such claims. Because it quite literally does tell people to kill Muslims. There’s a whole subsection in the article titled “mass graves” ffs.

        Indian schools don’t tell us to kill Muslims

        Here’s my guess: They teach that India has a legitimate claim to Kashmir and Pakistan is infringing on its territory. If that’s the case, then given the shit Indian soldiers get up to in Kashmir separatists would have a case in saying that Indian achools and anti-separatist Hindu temples are sites of indoctrination and that makes attacking them okay. If it’s okay for you, it’s okay for them, because just as you have your terror attacks they have their mass graves and half widows.