Ok, Lemmy, let’s play a game!

Post how many languages in which you can count to ten, including your native language. If you like, provide which languages. I’m going to make a guess; after you’ve replied, come back and open the spoiler. If I’m right: upvote; if I’m wrong: downvote!

My guess, and my answer...

My guess is that it’s more than the number of languages you speak, read, and/or write.

Do you feel cheated because I didn’t pick a number? Vote how you want to, or don’t vote! I’m just interested in the count.

I can count to ten in five languages, but I only speak two. I can read a third, and I once was able to converse in a fourth, but have long since lost that skill. I know only some pick-up/borrow words from the 5th, including counting to 10.

  1. My native language is English
  2. I lived in Germany for a couple of years; because I never took classes, I can’t write in German, but I spoke fluently by the time I left.
  3. I studied French in college for three years; I can read French, but I’ve yet to meet a French person who can understand what I’m trying to say, and I have a hard time comprehending it.
  4. I taught myself Esperanto a couple of decades ago, and used to hang out in Esperanto chat rooms. I haven’t kept up.
  5. I can count to ten in Japanese because I took Aikido classes for a decade or so, and my instructor counted out loud in Japanese, and the various movements are numbered.

I can almost count to ten in Spanish, because I grew up in mid-California and there was a lot of Spanish thrown around. But French interferes, and I start in Spanish and find myself switching to French in the middle, so I’m not sure I could really do it.

Bonus question: do you ever do your counting in a non-native language, just to make it more interesting?

  • Lit@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 hours ago

    6 languages to 10 for me.

    Counting to 20 or 100 would be a better measure of knowing the numbers of that language, since some languages become weird at 10 or 70 onwards, for example, french.

    Some like Mandarin or malay, we just need to mainly just learn to 10, and it is very consistent and logical after that.

  • SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    16 hours ago

    German, Cantonese, mandarin, English, French.

    I used to know in Swahili too, does that count ?

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Lol do we count swedish, norweigan and danish as different languages? Btw other languages are my two native ones: hungarian and english, and then i know spanish because i had it in highschool and i lived 4 months there(cant really speak it anymore sadly) and then croatian because i had one if my friends teach it to me. I used to know some japanese but i also forgot that so without that the total is 5 i guess.

    Bonus answer: as for everyday counting i do it either in hungarian or english so no i dont count in my non-native languages. My brain gets fried if i try to do maths for example in swedish. If i do english maths its no problem but i still prefer hungarian when i do large calculations without any paper.

    • Yes, the Germanic languages all count separately. Canadian French doesn’t count differently from France French because they call it “French” and it’s essentially completely understandable. I’ve known Bavarians who insist Hamburgers are unintelligible, although it’s all German.

      I can almost understand Danish. Almost. Words, here and there. But not Swedish at all.

      For the purposes of this count, if it’s called a different name, it’s a different language, regardless of how closely related. If it’s called the same language, but they’ve drifted dialectically so much natives can barely understand each other, it’s still the same language.

  • ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    I can count to ten in more language than I am able to speak (I just love learning stuff):

    Can count above ten:
    German (native), English, Norwegian, Romanian, Russian, Japanese

    Can count only up to ten:
    French, Polish, Mandarin

    I am learning Romanian at the moment, those are 0-10: zero,
    unu/ una,
    doi/ două,
    trei,
    patru,
    cinci,
    șase,
    șapte,
    opt,
    nouă,
    zece

    • Lit@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 hour ago

      Mandarin and Malay counting is very easy and consistent. You mainly just need to know until 10 or until 20 for malay. Malay uses English script, so you can read the numbers, too.

    • SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Well if you can count to ten in mandarin, you can count to 100.

      It’s literally 5 10 2, 5 10 3 for 52, 53 etc.

      Add one more word for hundreds, one more for thousands.

      After that it gets tough cause numbers beyond thousands are split by packs of 10 thousands, not hundred thousands like most western world (I guess).

      Similar to the lakh in Indian

      • ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        Oh, just like in Japanese, did not know that, they have the ten thousands quirk too. Would love to learn more Chinese and other languages, but I lack free time.

        • SoulKaribou@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          16 hours ago

          It’s coming from the abacus, meaning most likely all of Asian languages have this.

          I wonder about Arabic ones ?

    • jnod4@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      Quick question, why one would bother to learn romanian specifically? Family? Partners?

  • hossein@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    4: Persian, English, Chinese, French

    I used to be able to do so in Esperanto and Arabic as well but not anymore.

    • Oooo, I want to learn Persian, just for the script. I had a Persian girl friend briefly who taught me to spell my same; I’ve long since forgotten, but it’s gorgeous.

      When I met her, she insisted she was Persian. When I pressed her about it, she said it was for safety, because we were in the middle of Iran-Contra and she was worried telling people she was Iranian would get her animosity. Back then, I thought that was silly, but then, it turns out she understood my countrymen better than I did.

  • zagreas@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    I can do it in English, Greek, German, Czech, Italian, Dutch, and Spanish (but I only speak the first 3)

  • Harrk@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    4: English (native), Spanish (learned at school and 1-10 is about all I recall), Mandarin, and Japanese.

  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 day ago

    Portuguese, English, Japanese, German and in a good day, Spanish.

    Portuguese is native; English and Japanese I learned from consuming content in those languages; German comes from my family (though I recently started studying it too). And Spanish because it’s very similar to Portuguese so I just need to remember the differences.

  • luluu@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    66
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    1. Python

    for i in range(11):
        print(i)
    

    2. R

    for (i in 0:10) {
      print(i)
    }
    

    3. C/C++

    #include <iostream>
    
    int main() {
      for (int i = 0; i <= 10; ++i) {
        std::cout << i << std::endl;
      }
      return 0;
    }
    

    4. Java

    public class CountToTen {
      public static void main(String[] args) {
        for (int i = 0; i <= 10; i++) {
          System.out.println(i);
        }
      }
    }
    

    5. Lua

    for i = 0, 10 do
      print(i)
    end
    

    6. Bash (Shell Script)

    for i in $(seq 0 10); do
      echo $i
    done
    

    7. Batch (Windows Command Script)

    @echo off
    for /l %%i in (0,1,10) do (
      echo %%i
    )
    

    8. Go

    package main
    
    import "fmt"
    
    func main() {
      for i := 0; i <= 10; i++ {
        fmt.Println(i)
      }
    }
    

    9. Rust

    fn main() {
      for i in 0..=10 {  // 0..=10 includes 10
        println!("{}", i);
      }
    }
    

    10. Zig

    const std = @import("std");
    
    pub fn main() !void {
        var i: i32 = 0;
        while (i <= 10) {
            std.debug.print("{}\n", .{i});
            i += 1;
        }
    }
    

    11. Scala

    for (i <- 0 to 10) {
      println(i)
    }
    

    12. Fortran

    program count_to_ten
      implicit none
      integer :: i
    
      do i = 0, 10
        print *, i
      end do
    
    end program count_to_ten
    

    13. Haskell

    main :: IO ()
    main = mapM_ print [0..10]
    

    14. Julia

    for i in 0:10
        println(i)
    end
    
      • luluu@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 hours ago

        Yes I cheated. To be fair, I used each of those languages at one point and knew how to do it but was to lazy to look it up again.

        Edit: except Fortran

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        2 days ago

        It is astonishingly easy to get basically any LLM to output a simple iteration from one to ten function in all of those languages, and more.

        Here’s Assembly:

            newline db 0xA  ; Newline character
        
        section .bss
            number resb 1  ; Reserve a byte for the number
        
        section .text
            global _start
        
        _start:
            mov ecx, 1  ; Start with 1
            mov edx, 10 ; End with 10
        
        loop_start:
            cmp ecx, edx  ; Compare ecx with edx
            jg loop_end   ; If ecx > edx, jump to loop_end
        
            ; Convert number to ASCII
            add ecx, '0'  ; Convert number to ASCII
            mov [number], ecx  ; Store the ASCII value in number
        
            ; Print the number
            mov eax, 4        ; sys_write system call
            mov ebx, 1        ; File descriptor 1 is stdout
            mov ecx, number   ; Pointer to the number
            mov edx, 1        ; Number of bytes to write
            int 0x80          ; Call kernel
        
            ; Print newline
            mov eax, 4        ; sys_write system call
            mov ebx, 1        ; File descriptor 1 is stdout
            mov ecx, newline  ; Pointer to the newline character
            mov edx, 1        ; Number of bytes to write
            int 0x80          ; Call kernel
        
            sub ecx, '0'  ; Convert ASCII back to number
            inc ecx        ; Increment the number
            jmp loop_start  ; Jump back to the start of the loop
        
        loop_end:
            ; Exit the program
            mov eax, 1        ; sys_exit system call
            xor ebx, ebx      ; Exit code 0
            int 0x80          ; Call kernel
        

        Here’s FORTRAN

        program iterate_from_one_to_ten
            implicit none
            integer :: i
        
            ! Loop from 1 to 10
            do i = 1, 10
                print *, i
            end do
        end program iterate_from_one_to_ten
        

        Here’s COBOL

        PROGRAM-ID. IterateFromOneToTen.
        
        ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
        
        DATA DIVISION.
        WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
            01  WS-Counter PIC 9(2) VALUE 1.
        
        PROCEDURE DIVISION.
            PERFORM VARYING WS-Counter FROM 1 BY 1 UNTIL WS-Counter > 10
                DISPLAY WS-Counter
            END-PERFORM.
        
            STOP RUN.
        
        • Zangoose@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          Why does that assembly code use a global variable for a loop value?? It’s also ignoring register conventions (some registers need to be preserved before being modified by a function) which would probably break any codebase you use this in

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            2 days ago

            Because it was generated by an LLM that assumes this one to ten iteration function is the entirety of all of what the code needs to do.

    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I might be missing something, but don’t most of these count from 0 to 10, not 1 to 10 as was requested?

  • Old Jimmy Twodicks@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    53
    ·
    3 days ago

    English:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    Spanish:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    French:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    German:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    Italian:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    Greek:

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

    Mongolian:

    ᠐ ᠑ ᠒ ᠓ ᠔ ᠕ ᠖ ᠗ ᠘ ᠙ ᠑᠐