External self-determination cares little about national laws. That’s kinda the whole point. The real question is what type of conditions need to be met before a right to external self-determination arises and is recognized by other countries. In general, most countries don’t recognize a right to unilateral seccession under any condition. At the same time, it is also agreed that if a state were to make the practice of internal self-determination virtually impossible or meaningless, then a right to external self-determination should arise. In which case any “no backsies” rule under US national law (even the constitution) may be seen as a breach of fundamental rights.
With independence, it usually comes down to who has the bigger stick (in both material and ideational terms). The are definitely scenarios in which US states can make a valid legal case for independence but the conditions for that still haven’t been met as most international lawyers will agree that Americans in all states are afforded the right to internally self-determine. For now. Things are changing quickly.
what? no it doesn’t. not even a remote hint of that come on be realistic. the liberals are barely squirming over the illegal deportations. Folks are whining about eggs more than anything else.
Yeah, most Americans are too cowardly, or dumb (or both), to do anything meaningful. They prefer to sit by and watch their country get demolished, because trying to stop it would take effort.
I mean, yes, that’s certainly part of it, but the other parts are that we (Americans) live among extremely well-financed and equipped (courtesy of military surplus) police forces who are obvious in their zeal to terrorize and extort citizens, while also being insulated by legal buffers like “Qualified Immunity.”
In most cities, the police take up 40-50% or more of the budget, and produce essentially zero benefits, but will always be enshrined because they protect the status quo and the top wealth layer’s property, and are willing to use force to ensure the most vulnerable are kept fearful and destabilized.
Particularly as the US has a no backsies law, which makes it illegal for any US state or territory to gain independence in the future.
The British Empire also had a no secession clause… oh wait
It did not. No Parliament can bind a future Parliament. Indeed the vast majority of possessions gained independence via legal means.
Actually that’s exactly what constitutions are for and why chabges to the constitutions requres a larger majority thsn for normal laws
External self-determination cares little about national laws. That’s kinda the whole point. The real question is what type of conditions need to be met before a right to external self-determination arises and is recognized by other countries. In general, most countries don’t recognize a right to unilateral seccession under any condition. At the same time, it is also agreed that if a state were to make the practice of internal self-determination virtually impossible or meaningless, then a right to external self-determination should arise. In which case any “no backsies” rule under US national law (even the constitution) may be seen as a breach of fundamental rights.
With independence, it usually comes down to who has the bigger stick (in both material and ideational terms). The are definitely scenarios in which US states can make a valid legal case for independence but the conditions for that still haven’t been met as most international lawyers will agree that Americans in all states are afforded the right to internally self-determine. For now. Things are changing quickly.
It looks like a lot of US states are about to declare backsies.
what? no it doesn’t. not even a remote hint of that come on be realistic. the liberals are barely squirming over the illegal deportations. Folks are whining about eggs more than anything else.
California checking in. I’m working on it, there’s an effort to get it on the ballot.
Yeah, most Americans are too cowardly, or dumb (or both), to do anything meaningful. They prefer to sit by and watch their country get demolished, because trying to stop it would take effort.
I mean, yes, that’s certainly part of it, but the other parts are that we (Americans) live among extremely well-financed and equipped (courtesy of military surplus) police forces who are obvious in their zeal to terrorize and extort citizens, while also being insulated by legal buffers like “Qualified Immunity.”
In most cities, the police take up 40-50% or more of the budget, and produce essentially zero benefits, but will always be enshrined because they protect the status quo and the top wealth layer’s property, and are willing to use force to ensure the most vulnerable are kept fearful and destabilized.