Steve Witkoff said the Russian leader had an artist paint a portrait of Trump and gave it to the American president as a gift. Witkoff called Putin “super smart” and not “a bad guy.”

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    9 hours ago

    One of the weirdest thing about the last 20 years or so has been how unfounded conspiracy theories and wild-ass guesses and feels get stated as fac, and people stop realizing there’s a difference. Which lead to really sloppy thinking (including Trump’s rise)

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      9 hours ago

      What about my narrative concerning what really happened at Butler PA sounds like a “wild-ass guess” to you? Nothing “unfounded” about what really happened at Butler PA. trump’s SS staged a fake assassination and murdered Crooks and Comperatore.

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          8 hours ago

          What “proof” do you hold to believe the “official narrative” over what I said really happened? Where is your own proof for the alternative narrative you believe?

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            What is so hard to believe about someone acting on their own beliefs to try to kill one of the most hated and divisive people in our present time in history.

            Or why is it hard to believe that the SS failed in their duty to actively protect the president or president elect. Not like that hasn’t happened in US history ever. (Regan, Kennedy, Lincoln…).

            Easier to believe the conspiracy I guess.

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              Crooks was well-noted as a passionate righty. He had trump signs in his home yard the day he was murdered.

              He was a friendless loner who went to the gun range frequently. Crooks had been in a Blackrock/Xe promo a handful of years earlier.

              For “some reason,” trump’s SS said the school roof where Crooks was murdered was “outside their perimeter,” even though it was in full view of the rally. Since the SS knew this, why would they allow Crooks to be seen by the public on the school roof with a gun for approximately ten minutes before the SS killed Crooks? Because Crooks was “security help.” And there was a guy in black on the watertower behind Crooks during the shooting. This is documented by multiple witnesses.

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                8 hours ago

                At least you laid out some actual facts here, not just believe me bro it’s a conspiracy.

                Still flimsy assumptions here.

                Just as much reason to assume he snapped and acted independently as a loner like you described and is the normal mo for assassins in the past. And that SS is still has gaps in their security.

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                  You can literally see that trump’s SS was set up facing Crooks before the shooting. Crooks was in full view of trump’s SS where he was positioned on the school roof.

                  I watched trump rallies all summer. They took a week-long break before Butler, and at the preceding rally, trump told an OANN reporter, “We’ve got something big planned for Butler, you don’t wanna miss it.” What was big? The giant fakenews immigration graphic. When trump gave everyone the cue to turn to the right, that’s when Crooks & Comperatore got murdered for trump’s staged photo op.

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            8 hours ago

            That’s whataboutism, regardless of the answer. I didnt say anythibg about the other theory.

            Lack of proof is why your theory is perceived to be just some wild-ass guess.

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        There is no proof of what you say. Therefore it is unfounded.

        You can make your own false assumptions, but spreading conspiracy theories like this is dangerous.

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          “Dangerous.” You say nothing here beyond your assumption that you are the smartest guy in the room.