Summary

Jon Stewart slammed Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer for supporting a GOP funding bill after initially opposing it.

On The Daily Show, Stewart mocked Schumer for surrendering leverage without gaining anything in return, joking that he “got some cheese.”

He criticized Schumer’s strategy of waiting for Trump’s popularity to drop, calling it delusional.

Stewart argued Democrats avoid proposing real alternatives by pretending Republicans will compromise. He warned their approval rating is dangerously low, making their approach politically ineffective and out of touch.

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    Can we start using “Vichy” to describe any Democrats who collaborate with the fascists?

    Jon Stewart slammed Vichy Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer…

    Stewart argued Vichy Democrats avoid proposing real alternatives by pretending Republicans will compromise.

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        I don’t believe it applies to the entire party. There were Democrats (mostly in the House) who are actually opposing the fascists. The problem is that none of them are in leadership and the Vichy leadership is actively fighting the few Democrats who are trying to oppose the fascists rather than fighting the fascists.

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          and there were people in vichy france who opposed the nazis. there were people in germany, even!

          they’re rare. the democratic party’s mouth is closed around fascist cock.

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        I feel like neither of these are good. Like if I called you a troglodyte. Do you really care. It almost makes me look dumber for not having the social awareness to make a decent burn. Remember you’re trying to find something that makes them mad, not something that lubes up the dicks of the lefty beside you. Both is preferred but at a minimum you need something that actually gets their attention. Anything that anyone needs context or prior information is not good. Look at every single one the republicans used. Everybody understood it immediately. Some were legit catchy like Reeeeeeeeeeeeee super effective.

        Calling anyone a Rosenstrasse or Reichsdeutsch is just head up our own asses level of stupidity. It lacks any kind of punch. Avoid 10 cent words. Use stuff that a grade 3 student would understand.

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    The real takeaway is that the country is burning and our politicians are yucking it up together in a gym. We’re 100% in the ivory tower phase. They are removed from it therefore they don’t care enough to do anything but the same old same old.

    We need to bring the issues to them in creative ways so that they feel the “impact” of our anger.

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      I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists. Look at Bernie, AOC, Crockett, even Pritzker and Walz. Hell, even Seth fucking Moulton and Nancy fucking Pelosi criticized Vichy Schumer over his collaboration and capitulation.

      The problem is the Democrats, at the national level, are all led by the Vichy caucus of the party. Schumer, Jeffries, Newsom, etc who actually agree with the fascists on a number of issues.

      We can’t write off everyone elected with a (D) next to their name. History has shown us time and time again that the only thing that has ever defeated a powerful fascists movement is a popular front of leftists and liberals working together. We need to eliminate the Vichy wing of the Democratic Party. I’m not going to pretend like I know how to do that, but we’re never going to defeat the fascists if we keep lumping everyone in with the collaborationists. That just fractures our side and strengthens theirs.

      And electoral politics can’t be the only thing we do. It’s one tactic, but it’s not the only or even most important one. Most importantly, we need to build connections and networks within our communities so that we can support each other against the fascists. We need to establish the relationships now so that when the fascists come for the marginalized in our community people (especially those less engaged with politics) are more willing to side with the victims of the fascists who they’ve come to know against the power structures.

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        I think there are actual elected Democrats who want to oppose the fascists

        Starts the list with someone who isn’t a Democrat

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            *Registered Independent, but alligns with Democrats

            Unless you’re fine with admitting a ton of “Democrats” are actually Republicans, despite alligning with Dems.

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              The letter pretty clearly says “I am a member of the Democrat Party”.

              Show me a letter from Vichy Democrats that says “I am a member of the Republican Party.” Show me where Republicans put any Democrat in Senate leadership or gave them chair of a Committee.

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            Here’s a notarized letter signed by Bernie affirming he is, in fact, a Democrat.

            As of 2019, should he run for president. As of 2024, the paperwork for his election as a senator said Independent

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              And he’s also repeatedly made statements that he runs as an independent in Vermont because he promised his constituents he would always do so in his first Congressional race. But he’s also said that he considers himself a Democrat, and the party also clearly considers him one seeing as they put him in Senatorial party leadership and gave him chair (when they had the Majority) of one of the most powerful Senate committees: the Senate Budget Committee.

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    Highly paid, neo-liberal consultants that lost them multiple elections told Democratic leadership to become more Republican and that’s just what the Democratic leadership did by voting with Republicans.

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      It’s almost like they’d rather continue to talk to consultants than their own constituents post-Hilary and when your ideas are only to position yourself against the other guy, well you don’t have very many ideas at all. At least you still get to feel morally superior and continue building your own careerist resume. Democratic leadership don’t care about anyone but themselves and it shows. These people don’t work for you.

      https://youtu.be/5Gq16RO2XB0

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    Last time I checked in with Jon Stewart he was still refusing to call these dudes fascists, is that still the case?

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      Yes, a month ago he was saying dems should stop overreacting. Now he’s saying they’re capitulating. Never once attacking Trump for his fascist coup cause Paramount is being sued by the government. No mention of the attack on the 1st ammendment in any of this.

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      Hey uncle fart wafers. this is how you get opened up to Libel suits is that what you want for John Stewart him caught in the court for the rest of his life

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      wasnt he also wierd around the gaza/conflict to, he wasnt denouncing them, he was low-key supporting them.

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        Sorry, I forgot that with enough enlightened centrism we could all shove our heads so far up our butts thst nobody could see fascism. I’ll keep trying.

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          No you’re right, what we need to do is be hyper critical of different views and opinions. This way we can continue to build up this understanding that no one who stands up to speak against the right is safe.

          We need to attack all the time in all directions like a narcissistic mother trying to find fault regardless of the situation at hand. Go at Bill Burr next. That uppity mother fucker has been shitting on Elon and billionaires. You need to go out there and find a reason he sucks next.