• EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    What’s with the wording of this title? “Unhoused people” instead of “Homeless”/“Homeless people”

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      6 months ago

      It’s another one of those whack a mole words people are pushing. Once everyone gives in and we start using unhoused, it will suddenly switch to uninhabited because it’s racists to houses or something!

      It’s annoying as hell, because instead of fixing the issues we’re mastrubating about words and alienating people that we need to fix the issue.

      • snooggums@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        In the US they mean different things, as homeless includes people living in other people’s homes. That can include people whose house just burnt down and are living with friends or family because they lost their permanent residence (home). Unhoused is about where they are staying.

        People on the street are homeless and unhoused.

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          6 months ago

          And you really think people use and understand these terms like that?

          You may be correct in the academic sense, but completely wrong in all other senses.

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            6 months ago

            He isn’t correct in an academic sense. They are synonyms. Unhoused is being used because homeless has negative connotation to it.

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      6 months ago

      Not sure about Canada, but in the US:

      Homeless = no permanent residence, which also includes couch surfing, parents and children who just fled an abusive family member and are temporarily ltaying with friends or relatives, and people who are living in their car. All people without a home.

      Unhoused = homeless people that don’t have a roof over their heads. Might include living in a car.

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        6 months ago

        They are synonyms. Please don’t make things up.

        Edit: to all the knee-jerk downvoting. This is literally a quote from an article the user himself supplied as proof that there is a difference.

        Unhoused is probably the most popular alternative to the word “homeless.” It’s undoubtedly the one I see most often recommended by advocates. But it doesn’t have a meaningful difference in connotation from the more common term, “homeless.”

        It’s literally just a pc synonym of homeless.

  • Undearius@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    This is from the city where it’s illegal to be homeless. One man even collected over $100,000 in fines for being homeless.

    Yeah, that’ll help.

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      6 months ago

      It’s not “being homeless” that is illegal, though. It’s drinking in public, begging or sleeping in the metro. And it sure is tough not staying in the metro during winter. There are some organisms that can provide shelter, but not enough for everyone, and it usually cost a couple dollars, which not everyone have everyday. And it’s a real problem on both sides, as the metro was not meant to become a shelter for the homeless, and people have been complaining more and more that they feel unsafe there.

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        6 months ago

        Sure “being homeless” isn’t the crime itself but you’re being naive if you don’t think the laws make homelessness illegal. What are they supposed to do? Go find a piece of land no one has claim to and freeze to death?

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          And what are we supposed to do? Legalize all drugs and being drunk in public just to avoid having to fine them, and install beds everywhere in the Underground City (and in this post’s case, in emergency stairwells at the Complexe Desjardins) with no regard for their regular use?
          Sure, let’s work on proposing more accessible legal alternatives. Just take note that these laws weren’t created to punish the homeless, but to have a clean and safe public space - which have been degrading for some time now.

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Hey, we heard you can’t afford a house, so we’re charging you fines in the amount of what it would have cost to buy a house…we’re so cool! We solved homelessness! Because now if you want to be homeless, it actually costs more to NOT buy a house. So you may as well just buy a house!

        We did it guys! We ended the concept of homelessness! High five!