Yeah that’s all fair, although I will note that Aristotle was not writing in English, so the implication that this is the same word seems a little questionable.
Sometimes I wish that there was a different and better word to describe the movement, but that’s the one early theorists chose. I think their ideas remain foundational to the movement, and the linguistic connection remains important. Feminism sometimes suffers from a similar if less severe version of this issue.
There is libertarian socialism which is not exactly the same but could be used instead. But it’s a mouthful and those words have their own baggage, some of which has already come up in this thread.
Ultimately, the point of words is to communicate clearly and be understood by as many people as possible. There might be other solutions or ways to communicate but with all this in mind I still feel the best solution is asking people to use the word only for the movement and not these other ideas. But I’m happy to hear if anyone has an alternative.
Mutualism is more or less a Market Socialist that rejects the idea of property and replaces it with possession. It’s based on the writings of Proudhon. But I add the minarchist bit because I think we will still always need some small bit of governance for bad actors, and courts to resolve disagreements.
Yeah that’s all fair, although I will note that Aristotle was not writing in English, so the implication that this is the same word seems a little questionable.
Sometimes I wish that there was a different and better word to describe the movement, but that’s the one early theorists chose. I think their ideas remain foundational to the movement, and the linguistic connection remains important. Feminism sometimes suffers from a similar if less severe version of this issue.
There is libertarian socialism which is not exactly the same but could be used instead. But it’s a mouthful and those words have their own baggage, some of which has already come up in this thread.
Ultimately, the point of words is to communicate clearly and be understood by as many people as possible. There might be other solutions or ways to communicate but with all this in mind I still feel the best solution is asking people to use the word only for the movement and not these other ideas. But I’m happy to hear if anyone has an alternative.
I personally like to refer to myself as a Minarchist Mutualist. But nobody ever seems to know what I mean by that 😅
So you were a right-wing accelerationist anarchist all along?! I knew it!
In all seriousness I am still a little unclear on what exactly a mutualist is.
Mutualism is more or less a Market Socialist that rejects the idea of property and replaces it with possession. It’s based on the writings of Proudhon. But I add the minarchist bit because I think we will still always need some small bit of governance for bad actors, and courts to resolve disagreements.