cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/2089998
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I mean, good call, Canada.
About damned time. I was checking the LGBT travel advisories a few months ago, and was surprised that the US was green. Absolutely no way should anyone be travelling to Florida.
Red states are dangerous for any nonwhite male. Women? Traveling to a red state and get raped? Whelp better hope you don’t find out that you are pregnant while still in the state. LGBTQ+? Whelp, better hope no one knows your sexual identity or you could be denied life saving medication or could be jailed for simply using the wrong bathroom. Black? Whelp, people are literally hunting you while you try to pick up snacks at the local dollar general.
A lot of states with those laws probably also have “Stand Your Ground” laws and loose guns regulations, so really nobody should go there.
And as a blue blooded, god feering, gun toting, truck driving, steak eating, pussy grabbing, anti-woke, America first, patriot like myself that is exactly what we want. -s
also have “Stand Your Ground” laws
What exactly do you think these laws mean?
Trayvon Martin
What about him?
Those laws basically say it’s OK to shoot someone if you feel threatened. You can practically get away with murdering someone for looking at you the wrong way.
That’s not at all what they say. They “basically” say that you don’t have a duty to run away from someone who is actively attacking you.
Fine, maybe I misinterpreted why people think it’s OK to shoot at people for knocking on their door or pulling into the wrong driveway. I still don’t want to go to places where people are likely to do that.
That’s not a realistic fear. Certainly not something worth putting out a public notice about an entire country of 300 million people.
It happened several times in the last year, I’d mark it as realistic.
“Several times” across a country with 300 million people? That’s nothing but paranoia. You’re significantly more likely to be struck by lightning.
So Canadá is going to let trans people get treatment with informed consent model, right?
Right?
Some of our states are really good for trans people. A map of which regions yo avoid would be far more helpful than a blanket warning.
Erin Reed maintains a pretty good one:
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They already do allow trans care via informed consent.
Healthcare is under provincial jurisdiction, therefore this varies depending on where in Canada. My province doesn’t offer informed consent HRT.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Anti-LGBT protests in the US rose 30-fold last year compared with 2017, while legal moves to restrict LGBT rights are on the rise.
The term 2SLGBTQI+ is widely used in Canada for people who consider themselves two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning or intersex.
“Since the beginning of 2023, certain states in the US have passed laws banning drag shows and restricting the transgender community from access to gender-affirming care and from participation in sporting events,” they told CBC News.
In March, Tennessee’s governor signed laws banning drag performances in front of children and restricting medical treatment for transgender youth.
Two months later, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed bills banning children from undergoing transgender medical treatments or going to drag shows, and restricting pronoun use in classrooms.
On Monday, a mural in Florida dedicated to Irish journalist Lyra McKee, who was shot dead in 2019, was defaced with a swastika and anti-LGBT graffiti.
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Global Affairs Canada warned
Is thisanf NGO or a GO?
This is an official government warning confirmed by the Deputy Prime Minister. From the source:
Asked why the guidance had been updated, Canadian Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland told reporters in Atlantic Canada that the government employed experts “to look carefully around the world and to monitor whether there are particular dangers to particular groups of Canadians”.
She declined to comment when asked whether there had been discussions with the US government before making the change.
A rare good take by Freeland
GO. It’s a Federal Government department that is jointly run by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, the Minister of International Development, and the Minister of International Trade. Putting out travel advisories is part of their mandate.
Most Canadian GO follow a [Purpose] Canada naming scheme. If you want a SIN (equivalent to an SSN) you got to Services Canada. You get your weather warnings from Enviroment Canada. Drugs are related by Health Canada. Natural Resources Canada does the obvious. Parks Canada does National Parks. Transport Canada does highways and waterways.
I mean, stay the hell away from Florida and you should be ok.
unless one of the frothing right-wing psychos who’s full up on nazi propaganda decides you’re a groomer and hate crimes you, which can happen in any state in the u.s.
Or anywhere in the world. Rare events that get heavily reported in the US do not paint the overall picture of LGBT experience.
K link me to the most recent time somebody got murdered in Canada for flying a pride flag since it happens everywhere at the same rate.
Better be in the last week BTW.
“It’s Florida and Texas and red states that are the problem,” I tell myself as my entire country continues to collapse in a thousand different ways. “It’s Florida and Texas and red states. If we just had 60 Democrats in the senate and a more moderate SCOTUS (like in 2008), everything everywhere would be perfect! I mean, just look at all Obama managed to accomplish during that time! Endless drone strikes, corporate welfare, and a health care “plan” endorsed by the Heritage Foundation that made no difference to health insurance prices (which continued to rise as though nothing had happened) and left tens of millions of people uninsured or underinsured and which led to tens of thousands of deaths over the years due to lack of coverage—and that was before the pandemic even started! It’s not the system designed by genocidal slave owners that’s the problem, we just need to get rid of the corrupt elites and replace them with GOOD elites and everything will work itself out!”
Amerika is at the point where people in California get shot for flying a rainbow flag.
No it’s really not.
Recommend doing a bit of real traveling. As far as things go on a global scale a lot more FUD comes out of the US because it is an absolute media machine and everyone has their eyes glued on it at all times. As far as real world acceptance of LGBT it doesn’t get much better anywhere globally than California. In my experience other than perhaps, some select parts of Western Europe, the comfort level for LGBT travelers is much higher in the US than most places. There are cesspools like Florida that stand out, but this travel warning is largely propaganda.
I’ve been harassed and attacked in one of the safest cities for queer people in the US - it’s only safe anywhere in the country if you’re white. so no, this isn’t true.
Calls for violence against queer people are being broadcast everywhere, not just in red states. Also learn to care about people trapped in red states.
I live less than 2 hours from the Canadian border in one of the most progressive states and there’s trucks in town painted red white and blue with 3% logos and the moaning labia shit.
There’s another one with two stickers on the back window “kill your local pedophile” with somebody getting shot execution style and “democrats are pedophiles”
Everywhere in America 30 minutes outside a major city is like that.
and the moaning labia shit.
what is that?
Moan abe or however they took it. Means come.and take it apparently it’s what the Spartans said to the Persians at Thermopoli.
An ironic line because if you learned history from something other than a homoerotic Zac Snyder movie you would know the Persians responded with “k” then killed them all
2SLGBTQI+ is widely used in Canada for people who consider themselves two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning or intersex.
Yeah I don’t believe that lol, tf is that nonsense if a term
we’re adding letters every time you complain about it.
What “risks” are they talking about?
Hate crimes.
and 
cannot resist the temptation of committing hate crimes, and the pleasure they get from making innocents suffer.I don’t know what these things are. Are you suggesting that there’s an exception for crimes committed against these people?
by the police? absolutely
Police don’t need exceptions for anyone.
the police are the exception
So then we agree this is nothing to do with 2SLGBTQI+ people?
the relevant states have made a legal push to criminalize being queer in public
Total exceptions? No. But many states still allow people to get reduced sentences via the gay panic defense for killing LGBTQ people. That, and some politicians are encouraging hate crimes against them with hateful rhetoric about them being “groomers” and whatnot.
But many states still allow people to get reduced sentences via the gay panic defense for killing LGBTQ people.
You say that like it’s explicitly allowed by the state. It isn’t. It’s a legal defense lawyers use in court. Whether or not it’s legitimate is determined by a jury.
gAy PaNiC is never legitimate.
Tell that to the jury. What are you expecting to happen?
Wow, it is almost like a place where juries let people off on the gay panic defense is a place that is unsafe to be as a trans person.
I’ll tell em you’re gay and I panicked
the state, inside and outside courtrooms, to shut down hate crimes.
You need to learn that whether something is explicit or not doesn’t matter as much as what is happening in effect.
But that “effect” has nothing to do with the US…
Yes, because no jury members live in the US corporate media ecosystem which pushes vile transphobia constantly with the support of the US government.
2SLGBTQI+
I wonder how many fucking numbers and letters they will keep adding over the fucking years.
Gay people talk shit about it 24/7, it’s becoming a fucking joke of a name.
Edit: Random fucking morons attacking me and calling me a bigot, you are truly a bunch of imbecile.
we will keep including people until you choke on it, bigot
Honestly, including people is why i prefer just saying queer over using acronyms. It’s completely open-ended, it doesn’t create a hierachy based on who gets named first and who ends up with one of the slots behind the LGBT that may or may not be included by a given speaker, it’s easy to use, it doesn’t shoehorn people into rigid categories and makes it easy to fit in for people who are questioning or have complex identities - and it pisses off the exact type of bourgousified, reactionary, assimilationist, racist, mysogynist, transphobic, biphobic cis gays that the farthead you’re replying to refers to when they bring up how supposedly “gay people shit talk” all of this.
same tbh, plus i find i trip over acronyms a lot and it gives Certain Assholes the feeling that they can use that as a vector for attack (“it’s so complicated even they can’t keep track!” etc)
supposedly “gay people shit talk” all of this.
worth mentioning scumfuck up there only added that bit after getting criticized for their bigotry. homophobes are all magically harvey milk’s favorite nephew the instant someone calls them out.
worth mentioning scumfuck up there only added that bit after getting criticized for their bigotry. homophobes are all magically harvey milk’s favorite nephew the instant someone calls them out.
Yeah that’s common, i see that a lot both online and irl and they always mean somebody like that one gay dude in their QAnon chat group who dates muslim men exclusively while also wanting to genocide them.
I do the same for similar reasons.
That said, i don’t mind when ohter people go with the acronyms, and it often tells you a lot about the background of the person using it. Like, i see that it starts with 2S, i immediately know they’re Canadian because that’s the only place in the world doing that. Or when somebody still says GLBT like they did before AIDS, i know i’m reading a post from a cis gay boomer. And when i see something including LGBTT, i know they’re a transmedicalist and possibly from Southwest Germany and think you’re not valid if you don’t get bottom surgery.
disagree, queer is not all encompassing. if you dont identify as queer but you still want to identify with the community the acronym is still the best descriptor. as for the order, i do support updating it by putting trans first and pushing bisexuals down the list in favor of pansexuals.
pushing bisexuals down the list in favor of pansexuals
why
pushing bisexuals down the list in favor of pansexuals.
Bad take, considering bi erasure exists.
I don’t follow - my understanding of the term is that it encompasses everyone who fits under the umbrella. if you’re not under the umbrella, the acronym isn’t going to fit either, no? can you give me an example of who you mean?
Its a sociological descriptor not a personal one. You can be queer and not identify as queer, and you can identify as queer and not be queer.
every time you complain about it we add more
There are four letters in the headline of this article. Is that too many for you?
In 2026 it will be 13 letters.
it’s going to be 10000 letters, bigot
my totally real gay friends think you’re silly, that’s why you have to police your activism to appeal to me.
Fuck off.
you are quoting something I did not say, you too, can fuck right off to an eye exam.
You never heard of paraphrasing?
Illiterate and bigoted, name a more iconic duo.
BREAKING: China’s new Bureau of Gender has announced 121,890 new genders. Furthermore, the PM announced yesterday “Every Christian church in Shanghai will be replaced by a gay club.”
no more half measures walter 👍
I don’t give a shit.
🤖 + 👶 🧠
Did i just trick it with a fake news headline lmao
Edit: Random fucking morons attacking me and calling me a bigot, you are truly a bunch of imbecile.
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LMAOOO now go make your Hexbear cyberbullying callout post on Estonian potato forums
oh no I posted bigotry and now they’re calling me out for bigotry - I’m the real victim here.
“The minorities are bullying me! Help, help, I’m being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in their mockery!”
I love how people like you piss and cry over LQBTQIA+ which is an 8 letter acronym but managed to learn the (higher amount) of letters in an alphabet and didn’t act like a whiney piss baby then.
I bet you’ll be able to tell me encyclopaedic knowledge of either gaming, sports, TV, movies or programming depending on your interests though.
Go learn to think man baby.
Eat shit and die, bigot
you are an imbecile.
What’s your life worth?
LEARN THE FUCKING ACRONYM!!!> Edit: Random fucking morons attacking me and calling me a bigot, you are truly a bunch of imbecile.“Halp Im being called out for my shenanigans and now im entering damage control!”
You named yourself after a washer as best I could tell, not quite sure what point you’re trying to make. Are you also gonna bump your name out a bit to get with the times or are you gonna grow old and mad with the years?
I wonder how many fucking numbers and letters they will keep adding over the fucking years.
Numbers and letters over the years:
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself”
Galations 5:14
“Be genial, sweet and kind towards your companions.”
Mino-ī-Kherad, II.7
“For my people are foolish; they know me not; they are stupid children; they have no understanding. They are ‘wise’—in doing evil! But how to do good they know not.”
Jeremiah 4:22
I finally achieved it folks! I finally got to see a reactionary get ripped apart
livein here!!!
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I think even the LGBT+ community gets annoyed with it. It’s the media that seems to want to keep adding letters to this ever-growing acronym.
In my opinion, it just makes the whole thing seem more like a joke to the people who want to find reasons to dislike the movement.
Which is apparently working, looking at the upset boomers in comment chains like this one.
Gay people talk shit about it 24/7, it’s becoming a fucking joke of a name.
I’ve been saying for years if we just said queer and trans we could pretty much capture the whole thing. In a lot of ways I think straight cis folks and corporate culture are some of the main drivers of the alphabet soup acronym because they can’t imagine saying queer.
in addition, its okay to just say lgbt. none of us are expecting people to remember that whole thing
i typically say lgbt+ cuz i like being positive (hehe), but it matters much less than some folk will make it seem
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