Germany and Europe are once again 'Islamic State' targets – DW – 08/27/2024
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The Solingen knife attack is just the latest example of a new wave of violence linked to the "Islamic State" terrorist group. Experts say the war in the Middle East is the main catalyst.

The attack in Solingen is just the latest example of a new wave of violence linked to the Islamic State terrorist group. Experts say the war in the Middle East is the main catalyst.

The terrorist militia Islamic State (IS) has claimed responsibility for the knife attack in Solingen. According to Amak, the mouthpiece of IS, the attack was carried out in “revenge for Muslims in Palestine and elsewhere” and targeted a “group of Christians.”

      • mods_mum@lemmy.todayEnglish
        216·
        2 months ago

        Maybe you should get out some time

        Let’s focus on data primarily available from Germany’s Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) and other official sources.

        1. Homicides and Attempted Homicides by Immigrants

          2016: According to BKA data, immigrants were suspects in 285 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. This was during a peak year for refugee arrivals. 2017: Immigrants were suspects in 298 cases of homicide or attempted homicide. 2018: The number dropped to 230 cases. 2019: There were 256 cases where immigrants were suspects. 2020: The number was approximately 220 cases.

        2. Sexual Offenses

          2016: Immigrants were suspects in approximately 3,400 cases of sexual offenses. 2017: This number increased to around 3,600 cases. 2018: The number remained relatively stable, with about 3,400 cases reported. 2019: There were 3,500 cases. 2020: Around 3,000 cases involved immigrant suspects.

        • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
          141·
          2 months ago

          I’mma be honest, I didn’t dig statistics for Germany, but I live in Russia where the same migrant hysteria is rampant rn, and saw some numbers from there.

          On average, immigrants in Russia commit less crimes per person than native population. The areas in which there are objectively more crimes are migration laws (obviously) and sexual offences. Numbers in other categories are higher by native Russians. And mind you, our migrants come from underdeveloped primarily Muslim countries, too.

          With that said, do you have data on the share of crimes committed by native German population and immigrants? Pure numbers mean little without context.

        • atro_city@fedia.io
          101·
          2 months ago

          Cites sources, doesn’t link them.

          Also, does being a suspect mean they are guilty? All somebody has to do is scream rape, point and a non-white, and they are guilty of rape?

        • einkorn@feddit.orgEnglish
          7·
          2 months ago

          I am not sure what you are trying to tell with these numbers except to stir some hatred.

          To make any sort of sense from these numbers, you have a) to define what an immigrant is (hint, the BKA definition is very loose) and b) compare them to the overall cases of the listed offenses.

          • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
            110·
            2 months ago

            make any sense of these numbers

            A. Immigrants were responsible for some murders and rapes and other crimes

            B. They had to be present in the country to commit these proximal acts

            C. Had they not been present, the murders, rapes, and other crimes perpetrated would not have been committed by them in the country

            D. There would have been less crime and the immigration system would not have caused harm to the actual domestic population.

            The crime rates of citizens vs immigrants is informative in terms of helping determine policy adjustments in terms of country of origin and specific cultural concerns but it doesn’t change the fact that the immigration system is doing harm to the domestic population which it should rightfully otherwise protect and benefit and be sustainable in the service of all it does.

            Nobody owes a violent, unstable refugee or criminal migrant (legal/economic, illegal etc) a fox in the henhouse situation. Doesn’t matter what they’ve been thru, it seems like there’s not even an in the alternative where they are mitigated and supervised until they can demonstrate they belong or removed before they can take root by causing harm.

            Edit: by the way this can actually lead to citizens committing crimes of desperation because they can’t find housing or employment or any other necessary. We don’t have infinite resources but there is infinite profit potential for those encouraging this mandate.

            Housing profits/crisis 🚀 Lower wages/wage growth suppression 🚀 Private healthcare system 🚀

            • einkorn@feddit.orgEnglish
              7·
              2 months ago

              So you want to assign every immigrant a babysitter till they have been evaluated to be no risk?

              While we are at it, might just as well give EVERYONE a government sponsored supervisor to be sure, because I’ve heard even some of those people already here rape, murder or commit other crimes. All in the name of the security of our state. I guess we should form some sort of ministry to supervise this effort. I guess Ministry for State Security might be fitting.

              Do you even realize how contemptuous your idea is? I don’t know anything about you, but I guess to be sure you won’t kill me should you ever visit my city/county/state/planet, I will put you in a cage and point a camera at you.

              I hope you keep your idea in mind should you plan to take your next vacation anywhere but your own apartment.

              • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
                15·
                2 months ago

                Would you allow any random person who showed up at your doorstep a live-in gig as a nanny without doing some due dilligence? What does high-trust/low-trust mean to you?

                • einkorn@feddit.orgEnglish
                  8·
                  2 months ago

                  Hell no, and I don’t care if that person is black, white, blue, has an American, French or Iraqi passport.

                  But you are trying to build a strawman here, because babysitting is not the same as granting people shelter from hardships.

                  And to loop back to your previous statements regarding the number of crimes committed by immigrants: Am I statistically more likely to get murdered by an immigrant or by a fellow country man? You might have to reconsider your approach towards high/low threat environments in your everyday life.

                  • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    15·
                    2 months ago

                    Does the aspiration of granting refuge to people facing hardship take precedence over the actual moral and societal imperative to ensure the safety for those you are already responsible for?

                    There are many people who are facing hardship who we refuse to shelter already and they were always here. And by taking in more people from the outside while refusing existing inside hardship-facers shelter and safety, what is this really accomplishing?

                    Is that right or fair or even practical?

        • Iapar@feddit.orgEnglish
          6·
          2 months ago

          Those numbers mean nothing when there is no number to compare it to.

          So what are the numbers for Germans?

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.worldEnglish
          72·
          2 months ago

          Immigrants are over 15% of the population, of course they commit crimes. 8% of rapes are reported, wanna bet whether they’re more frequently reported when they’re committed by immigrants?

    • DMBFFF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      83·
      2 months ago

      Apparently the disgraceful rapist pig was a minor when he did it, and she was jailed for a weekend.

        • DMBFFF@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          2 months ago

          Judge jails 1 of 9 men in Germany gang rape of teen girl

          https://torontosun.com/news/world/judge-jails-1-of-9-men-in-germany-gang-rape-of-teen-girl

          ​

          The others convicted of rape — filmed twice during separate assaults — received suspended sentences of one to two years. Four were identified as German, while the others have Armenian, Afghan, Kuwaiti and Montenegrin citizenship, reports said.

          …

          A 10th defendant was found not guilty, while another accused who faced charges for aiding and abetting and filming the rape, was acquitted in April.

          ​

          The judge’s sentences are not considered the final ruling.

          ​

          Due to the ages of the defendants at the time — between 17 and 21 — the trial was conducted by the youth chamber of Hamburg’s court. Sentencing is determined by each defendant’s educational needs, according to German criminal law.

          ​

          According to prosecutors, the girl attended a party on the festival grounds of the park on Sept. 19, 2020. While drunk, the teen was led by four men to a bushy area and abused.

          a lot of drunk women were/are raped by nominally Christian native-born.

          The judge called the proceedings “a mammoth circumstantial trial in which it was not clear for a long time what had happened on the night of September 19th to 20th, 2020,” according to a translation of a report by Germany’s Spiegel.

          …

          Some called for the judge to be a rape victim herself, while the criticisms were “marked by an anti-immigrant undertone,” the group added.

          ​

          and this was almost 4 years ago and occurred in a country of 82 million.

    • Lord Wiggle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      You should check your sources.

      I found this on your source:

      Overall, we rate The Telegraph Right Biased based on story selection that strongly favors the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to poor sourcing of information and some failed fact checks.

      Bias Rating: RIGHT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: United Kingdom MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE Media Type: Newspaper Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY