• Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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    98% of 13,306 recorded cluster munitions casualties that are registered with Handicap International are civilians, while 27% are children

    bombing your own population and its kids to own the russians

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      If that’s what it takes to kick the Russians out of the country, then it has to be done; failing to kick them out would result in far more harm. The fault is still with the Russians, since if they weren’t there, there would be no fighting and no casualties at all.

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        the options are not in fact committing borderline war crimes or accepting russian rule

        and no, dropping cluster bombs are actually the fault of the person dropping cluster bombs

        if turning several kids into chunky red paste per russian is just the price youre willing to pay thats one thing, but at least grow a spine and say it with your whole chest instead of shoving off the responsibility on said russians

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          the options are not in fact committing borderline war crimes or accepting russian rule

          I can’t help noticing that your claim of other options existing was not followed by even a single example.

          at least grow a spine and say it with your whole chest instead of shoving off the responsibility on said russians

          It is their responsibility. The fighting happens because Russia invaded, and it would cease immediately if it withdrew its troops back within its own borders. Every single casualty is 100% the fault of Russia. Calling me spineless is not very nice and more importantly not a very good way of arguing against my logic.

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            Completely agree with you. Every argument I have seen to pin this on Ukraine is grasping for straws.

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              If this were on Reddit, I’d have no doubt that those comments are from Russian trolls. I doubt there are many of those here yet, so I guess they’re just useful idiots who have had their brains washed.

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                There are so many issues with “think about children”. If in the name of safety of children someone suggests Ukraine should maybe consider surrendering you give these children away to a country that believes outcome of Beslan school siege was a success. Also if Ukraine won’t be using cluster munnitions Russia will still use them so if there are going to be de-mining efforts anyway…

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          Russia has already dropped thousands of cluster munitions, thermite incendiary bombs, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, drones, artillery, tank rounds, and small arms fire directed at civilians. Not to mention deploying millions of land mines.

          Thousands have already died. When will Russia stop? Ukraine has repeatedly asked and demanded the war to stop.